|I'm with Jennifer (post #59) on this one.|
Of all the frequent posters, I find Linz to be one of the individuals to most frequently rant and heap abuse and insults at others - typically through a thin veil of "humorous" epitaphs which are substitutes for rational argument. So I find it ludicrous for him to be spearheading this cause. Who moderates the moderator?
Here are my comments on the issues that have been raised in this thread:
* I don't think anyone here needs a lecture on private property. I believe that everyone agrees that whomever the property owners of this forum are, they can do whatever they like: invite or expel anyone for any reason; dictate the decorum of the discussions; etc. However, in the name of objectivity, it would be nice if the owner(s) clearly spelled out the rules of conduct in advance and in writing so that members could have some idea of what they are accepting by participating. If the owners are to be treated by a different set of rules than others, clearly identify those individuals.
* I'm not a defender of David's comments to Joseph, but I do find it strange that they were singled out from among those made by others. It appears that the differentiating factor was that they were directed at one of the forum owners. Linz has stated (post #48) that there is indeed a double standard in effect for Joe and Jeff. I think this is a tragic mistake. I agree that it is inappropriate to hurl insults at one another and think it should be avoided in ALL cases. We don't have to be passionless in our responses to issues that are raised on this forum, but as mature adults, we need to accept the responsibility of insuring that as we engage in discussion, we do so within a framework of civility and respect. If that is done, then everyone receives the benefits that are apparently now only to accrue to Joe and Jeff.
* "If you truly itch to insult the principals here just because they're principals, then insult me." (Linz: post 48). Where does stuff like this come from? If insults were exchanged, they were in response to differing viewpoints expressed about specific topics relating to interpretations of Objectivism and have absolutely nothing to do with issues of forum ownership! I am constantly amazed at how an important topic can slowly mutate, as we see here, into unfathomable realms. And just to be clear, I'm not taking Linz up on his offer. I am trying to make a point and have no interest in insulting him any more than I do any other person.
* As one final observation, I am amused that Linz, who so often rails (rightly) against the nanny state for extending its parenting hand into inappropriate areas of our life, is so ready to jump in and discipline those of us he disagrees with, as though we were children needing to be spanked. (e.g., "I have rubbed the noses of the infantile prats who clearly need educating ...") I believe that most parents on this list could probably advise him about much more effective ways to raise children. I would like to add that he might get better results if he were to realize that we are, in fact, not children, and start treating us as adults.
Well, I guess it's time for me to "fuck off". Bye bye.