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Monday, March 6, 2006 - 11:23amSanction this postReply
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Jenna,

What I'm calling for is a distinction for the term cognition. Perhaps my favorite quote of all time was the one where Confucius mentioned that words require correct definitions for humans to make progress. For me, cognition has the following meaning ...

Main Entry: cog·ni·tion
Pronunciation: käg-'ni-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English cognicioun, from Latin cognition-, cognitio, from cognoscere to become acquainted with, know, from co- + gnoscere to come to know -- more at KNOW
: the act or process of knowing including both awareness and judgment

Now, if cognition is knowing, and human knowledge is something that is contingent on reason, then "irrational cognition" is an anti-concept. My point is that the term "irrational cognition" -- actually prevents progress in the neuro-cognitive-sciences. All I'm asking for here, is that that mental activity which does not lead to knowledge -- be called something other than cognition. And I think that that distinction would fuel progress.

Ed 

p.s. On ADD: Human weaknesses (which are a fact of reality) are usually over-developed strengths. Like Robert M. says, ADD is often merely bored genius.


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Monday, March 6, 2006 - 12:52pmSanction this postReply
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Cognition: I was using the Wikipedia definition of cognition: "The term cognition (Latin: cogito, "to think") is used in several loosely-related ways to refer to a facility for the intelligent processing of information. In psychology, it is used to refer to the mental processes of an individual, with a particular focus toward the study and understanding of mental states (ie. beliefs, desires and intentions) in terms of information processing especially in the area of context awareness (ie. abstraction or concretization), or where processes involving knowledge, expertise, or learning are at work."

In general, cognitive neuroscientists use the word "cognition" in this way. You're right, as a rule we should all try to define terms first. One interesting thing I've noticed, at least in myself, is the tendency to have a field-related outlook. Say "skull" to me and I think of "human skull" rather than "bird skull". I was doing the same with the word "cognition". And this is where language is interesting, that one word may indeed have different perspectives, depending on where the person is coming from. Now I know why your argument makes sense with your definition, and why mine makes sense with mine.

ADD as bored genius: It's *usually* expressed that those with ADD are also intelligent, but I don't think of it as bored genius. It was a struggle to control one's focus; this spilled out into impulsiveness, seeming irresponsibility, rampant forgetfulness, frustration, impatience, random blank outs, etc. It generated innovation, creativity, independence, mental speed, complex thinking. It was only minimized by extreme exhaustion and difficult subject matter-- the "bad stuff" was minimized, but so was the good. I ended up with highly unlikely grades-- As on the hard stuff, Bs on the easy. My essays only made sense after hours of organizing; timed essay exams were hardly readable. My mental powers were scattered and hard to control; yet at times I was too hyperfocused and forgot to eat. It was like herding cats mentally. Now, having been treated with what medicine can offer, I can just harness most of it at will. Things are clearer, sharper, and my mind is more of an aggregated power than before. Now I can use my intelligence as a guided missile, rather than the poorly aimed machine gun of before.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 - 12:49amSanction this postReply
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Jenna,

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Now I know why your argument makes sense with your definition, and why mine makes sense with mine.
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Cool.

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ADD as bored genius: It's *usually* expressed that those with ADD are also intelligent, but I don't think of it as bored genius. It was a struggle to control one's focus; this spilled out into impulsiveness, seeming irresponsibility, rampant forgetfulness, frustration, impatience, random blank outs, etc.
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Random blank outs of superficial dynamics -- sacrificed to superceding and underlying, generative dynamics. Still, bored genius -- as far as I can see. To be in "the moment," is not the same as to be in the larger truth of the matter. Sometimes, "the moment" is dissuading or distracting. Sometimes, "the moment" doesn't best track truth.

Ed 


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