About
Content
Store
Forum

Rebirth of Reason
War
People
Archives
Objectivism

Post to this threadMark all messages in this thread as readMark all messages in this thread as unread


Post 0

Sunday, June 7, 2009 - 9:41amSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
Under eight years of George W. Bush, the defict reached levels never seen before. Then in the first three months under Obama the deficit quadrupled!
---------

"Barack Obama has fatally undermined our currency, our solvency, our financial stability and -- ultimately -- our economy, all to spend money that has had no economic effect!

Is Obama a failure? Not by his lights. His goal was never to stimulate the economy. His goal was to expand government spending, and he used the recession as an excuse to do so. And, by this standard, he is a raging success. With the stimulus spending, the government proportion of gross domestic product will rise from about 35 percent to about 40 percent, and with health care "reform" it will go soaring into the mid-40s, bringing us to parity with Germany en route to France!
(Dick Morris column)

----------------

We all know that the current economic crisis was the trojan horse of hidden change. That nationalizing, federalizing and dogged pursuit of the twin holy grails of cradle to grave health-care and greening the economy were the real goals, whispering in the ear of the left, "Don't waste this crisis!"

So much change so rapidly, it makes the head spin. Audacious change, for sure. It has been distracting but now it is time to look ahead a bit. We all know what the results of his changes will be on the economy - not in detail, but in general. It will make things worse, but it is difficult to predict timing and it is near impossible to predict the reserve of human resiliency and ingenuity. That means that we don't know that we will see another collapse coming soon. We might get a recovery - even if it is only temporary. What then? It will frustrate President Obama and congress because it will take away the one thing letting them have their way - the crisis.

So what might Obama do to get back on the track he wants to be on? He can try to talk us into feeling like we are still in a crisis - he has used the word crisis more than I have in this little post to whip up a sense of panic. But that has worn a bit thin and might not do the trick. Would he create a new crisis... out of the economy? That was what I was thinking of.... then I began to wonder if he hasn't been working towards that end already. Are we being too kind to think that his destruction of our economy is an accident born of economic ignorance? I'm wondering if he isn't purposely trying to destroy Capitalism in order to usher in his brand of socialism.

The last crisis worked far better than they could have imagined. It would be foolish think that this bunch won't be even more efficient in using the next crisis, and that they will be eagerly waiting for it, and maybe nudging us into it. I'm coming to believe they want to destroy parts of the current structure - to make room for their new structure and to ride the interim crisis. What will the next crisis be?



Post 1

Sunday, June 7, 2009 - 1:37pmSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
The good news is that so far we have not one new long-term spending program. No new medicrap or newspaper subsidy program. We do have an orgy of gorging that makes the exploding man from Monty Python's Meaning of life look the picture of health. But we don't have any new spending plans. Yet.




Post 2

Sunday, June 7, 2009 - 1:52pmSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
Ugh! This was so awful the first time I'd seen it, I promised myself never to watch it again. I'll take the keniggets of the round table anytime.

jt

Post 3

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 3:59pmSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
Steve,

Next crisis? Take your pick! I'm pondering a theory that crises are efficient vehicles for each Administration to get done what they want to get done. Historically, people stand behind government and cut it slack (at least early on) when there's some big problem that needs tackling. And that alleged big problem is a great excuse to sneak in all sorts of fun new programs that push this or that agenda.

Extending the theory, I suspect Dems prefer domestic crises, whilst the GOP prefer international crises. Need to flesh it out. Not developed. But if it works, then we can expect the next crisis under this administration to be within our borders.

Jordan



Post 4

Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:52pmSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
"Extending the theory, I suspect Dems prefer domestic crises, whilst the GOP prefer international crises."

That's like saying, 'I suspect water is wet, whilst sand is dry' :D
(Edited by Tim Black on 6/16, 12:53pm)


Post 5

Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 3:21pmSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
Is it really that obvious? I haven't done the history.

Post 6

Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 1:44pmSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
White house cheif of staff once said "Never let a crises go to waste", any crises is ideal to hide agendas. Agendas which are either designed for fiscal or political gain, the ironic part of the whole situation is these so called crises are on going and all it takes to grow a budding crises is for it to be cited in the public eye. Press and people infused with, respectively, desire of profits and fear will develope it.      

Sanction: 5, No Sanction: 0
Sanction: 5, No Sanction: 0
Post 7

Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 2:44pmSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
Change in the Obama adminstration's tactics, in the form of the creation of a new crisis, is most likely when it gets harder to pass bills. When they can't get Obama-care passed, or the Cap-and-Trade passed... that's when I'd look for the new crisis. The worse the crisis, the more likely it will be used to justify stopping dissent as well.

Post 8

Friday, June 19, 2009 - 6:49amSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
Obamas constant message in the press now, seems to be that not 'fixing' health care is 'a greater threat to the economy'. Talk about self-serving. I sincerely hope these efforts can be stopped.

Important though, is that the industry starts working harder on its own solutions to rising medical costs. Logical ones, like reducing frivolous malpractice lawsuits against doctors, could have a dramatic impact.

In the end, you can't have a solution that will 'care' for everyone, and still have a free country. They are mutually exclusive.

jt

Post 9

Friday, June 19, 2009 - 8:33amSanction this postReply
Bookmark
Link
Edit
Well, the present polls seem to be indicating shifting --

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Public-wary-of-Obama-policies-NBCWSJ-and-CBSNYT-polls-48553207.html

Post to this thread


User ID Password or create a free account.