|I love it! Ted wrote, |
"Have a nice day"? You say that like it's a threat. Oh, pardon me. How curious that you view that as a threat, when you feel free to engage in condescending sarcasm, insult and ridicule whenever it suits you. But if someone says, "Have a nice day," he's crossed the line.
Hypocrite is your word Bill. I never used it. You used it six times in order to change the subject when it was pointed out to you that an argument that Jesus is necessarily morally perfect since his will as God defines what is moral is incompatible with Rand's description of Jesus as ideal, a term which presupposes some objective standard. I assume you admit, although you seem reluctant to say it out loud, that that was not at all Rand's point. Oh, come on, Ted. Rand's point was that Christians regarded Jesus as a moral ideal, not that by some objective standard, he was a moral ideal. And as for the term "hypocrite," it was you who argued that Christ didn't practice what he preached and that this was widely recognized by orthodox Christians. Well, what do we call someone who doesn't practice what he preaches? We call him a "hypocrite." So, if Christ was widely recognized by orthodox Christians as not practicing what he preached -- i.e., as a hypocrite -- then I would think that would include the pope. So, my question to you was: do you seriously think that the pope would say that Jesus Christ was a hypocrite? I'm still waiting for your answer.
In case anyone has missed my point, Jon did stumble on it, albeit as if he were disccovering something I hadn't already said repeatedly in plain English from my first post. I repeat, while her other points are valid, Rand's characterization of Jesus as an ideal embodiment of man is her own (understandably) confused notion, not orthodox Christian theology. Finally, I inadvertently omitted the source for this quote above, from Atonement at the Catholic Encyclopedia. You will notice the article says nothing about ideal humans. So what? That doesn't mean that orthodox Christians don't view Christ as perfectly moral and in that sense an ideal man. You, who demand evidence, have failed to provide any evidence whatsoever of your claim that Jesus Christ is widely regarded by Christians as not practicing what he preached and therefore as less than morally ideal.
Have a blessed day!