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Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 4:48pmSanction this postReply
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I had only heard about this new, Madonna-wannabe called Lady Gaga. I caught glimpses of performances but was never impressed, so I never paid her attention. I was flipping through the channels the other day and decided to watch her perform in concert. She was laying on her stomach on-stage, dressed in ridiculous clothes, and speaking into the microphone between songs at her concert. She remarked that what she really hates is truth. People applauded for that. I have a question:

What would Ayn Rand say about that (WWARSAT)?

:-)

Ed


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Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 4:54pmSanction this postReply
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I thought about writing a book called "What Would Howard Roark Do?"

"If you want my advice, Peter, you've made a mistake already. By asking me. By asking anyone."
(Edited by Joe Maurone on 5/12, 4:59pm)


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Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 5:00pmSanction this postReply
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As for Gaga, I can't stand her. But I was curious:

“But now we will celebrate. And the truth is there's only one thing in the world that I really, really hate. Does anyone know what that is? Money. But there's only one thing I hate more than money ... and that's the truth. I don't like the truth. I like a giant dose of bullsh-- any day."

Meh.

I'm cautious about taking things like this at face value, without hearing from the other side, so I googled up on it and found this:


“What I’ve discovered is that in art, as in music, there’s a lot of truth-and then there’s a lie. The artist is essentially creating his work to make this lie a truth, but he slides it in amongst all the others. The tiny little lie is the moment I live for, my moment.” ~Lady Gaga

"And in those moments, Gaga creates her own religion."

Well, now...this does sound a little familiar...

"The most important principle of the esthetics of literature was formulated by Aristotle, who said that fiction is of greater philosophical importance than history, because “history represents things as they are, while fiction represents them as they might be and ought to be.”

I personally hate when creative types use the word "lie" to describe fiction, but if I was to be generous, I'd say there's some overlap here, in spirit, if not in understanding.

As for the money, I'll be happy to take it off her hands, if it will help her...



(Edited by Joe Maurone on 5/12, 5:22pm)


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Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 5:35pmSanction this postReply
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LG's comment about hating money and your reply, Joe, about taking it offer hands reminded me of a statement that Milton Friedman made to someone who, at one of his lectures, stood up and waved a paper dollar, exclaiming, "This is not real money." To which Friedman replied, "Give me all you've got."

Of course, that's not quite the same, is it?!

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Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 5:44pmSanction this postReply
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"Of course, that's not quite the same, is it?!"

Only if we're concerned with the truth...:P

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Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 6:22pmSanction this postReply
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JM: "I personally hate when creative types use the word "lie" to describe fiction, but if I was to be generous, I'd say there's some overlap here, in spirit, if not in understanding. "

A couple of months ago, I read The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K Leguin, and this later edition had a forward by her. She used the word "lie" in the same way.



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Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 6:39pmSanction this postReply
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I read that a while ago, don't quite remember, but it sounds familiar, Michael. I think I read something similar from Michael Chabon, for a recent example.

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Friday, May 13, 2011 - 3:27amSanction this postReply
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The definitive expression of these thoughts may still be Wilde's The Decay of Lying.

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Friday, May 13, 2011 - 5:20amSanction this postReply
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Jr High and High school sensibilities rule pop culture. It is the perfect Kool-Aid accompaniment for the Endless Thirteenth Grade of Life.



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Friday, May 13, 2011 - 5:24amSanction this postReply
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And let's not forget: there is a ton of money to be made pandering to complete idiots, and when you are looking for volume in anything, you definitely have to go there.

Our collective mass of goo can never be underestimated, and proves it every day of the week, although, those depths are plumbed constantly. Still no bottom apparent.

It is what makes rarity so rare.



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Friday, May 13, 2011 - 4:40pmSanction this postReply
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I couldn't stand LG from the first time I heard her stupid, incoherent crap.

I read today that American Idol will feature a performance from her, but "blur out" her penis shaped shoes. 

How tasteful of them.  


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Friday, May 13, 2011 - 5:00pmSanction this postReply
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If you ask me, LG should have to pay 95% of profit in royalties to Madonna. She's just a copy-cat knock-off of that at-least-original "on-stage masturbater."

Ed


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 5:18amSanction this postReply
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ET: If you ask me, LG should have to pay 95% of profit in royalties to Madonna. She's just a copy-cat knock-off ...

Sort of the way that Schubert was "Beethoven Lite?"

I think I read this first about science fiction, that you cannot claim both that a new genre exists and then that those who write in it are unoriginal. We have a discussion about Lady Gaga on the the Home Page. There Dean Michael Gores gave her an endorsement for her originality. I recommended closing your eyes when you link to her YouTube/Vevo videos.

Her stage performances are a separate art form and her sexuality is neither unique nor a copy of Madonna -- again, unless you want to equate Yanni with Zamfir.



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Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 10:32amSanction this postReply
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"unless you want to equate Yanni with Zamfir."

Sure, why not. They both drive me to suicide.

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Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 10:55amSanction this postReply
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Mike,

I think I read this first about science fiction, that you cannot claim both that a new genre exists and then that those who write in it are unoriginal. We have a discussion about Lady Gaga on the the Home Page. There Dean Michael Gores gave her an endorsement for her originality.



When I experience LG on YouTube videos, I see and hear the same, tired, post-modern, existentialist crap put into a catchy tune with synthesizers and wrapped-up with a generous helping of sexual innuendo (visual or vocal) in order to sell it. Because, as musical excellence goes, it wouldn't quite sell on its own merits.

You know, politicians have become pretentious celebrity-types and some of that is, from a distance, understandable. It allows politicians to deceptively acquire votes they couldn't, otherwise, get -- based on their own merits or stances on important issues. But the music profession, an art form, is supposed -- in my mind -- to be more pure and moral (in terms of honesty) than "professional politics." So this same "smoke-and-mirrors" behavior, when found in the music profession, is deplorable to me. The enterprise of acquiring unearned value is more easily understood when occurring in politic processes than it is when occuring in art.

In art, the enterprise of acquiring unearned value (success-without-talent) is as merit-empty and degrading as is putting lipstick on a pig, or of submitting shit-on-a-stick to an art gallery. These people (see below) don't have -- or at least don't show -- good taste.

Ed

Appendix:

A mere knock-off of "Pin-head" from that B-grade, hell-raiser movie.


Just a remake of "Dawn of the Dead" which should be retitled to read: "Dawn of the Less-Talent, More-Glitter Crowd"

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 5/14, 11:13am)


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 4:10pmSanction this postReply
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Whuddya expect from someone raised by a mom who was comfortable driving her teen daughter to work as a pole dancer?

All the cool moms do it.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 6:31pmSanction this postReply
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Tres,

Seriously? I thought LG was a child musician, playing piano and whatnot (before getting wacky-loopy). And you are telling me she was a teenage pole dancer???

Dammit, I should have been following her Twitter account more closely all of these years!

:-)

Ed


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Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 3:42amSanction this postReply
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Seriously.  I heard a radio interview where she talked about her mom driving her to work at a strip club.  Even the raunchy DJ was a little aghast about it. "Didn't some of those old letches grab at you, 'n stuff?"  

"Oh, sure."  

From what I understood, she was expecting this to help her music career.  Madonna worked as a back up dancer for other artists, and it did help her career because she made real contacts in the field.  Not sure how many reputable record producers hang out in strip joints, though.

My youngest daughter loves music. Ashley writes and performs her own songs. She's been picked up by a producer and is releasing a single on iTunes shortly.  To my knowledge, she's never had to take her clothes off to accomplish this. 


 



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Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:02amSanction this postReply
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Tres,

Good for Ashley!

Ed


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Monday, May 16, 2011 - 2:59amSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Ed! I'm really excited for her.

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