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Friday, October 26, 2012 - 11:39amSanction this postReply
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This delightful flowchart originates from an Atheism web site.




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Friday, October 26, 2012 - 4:06pmSanction this postReply
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On the rules for a good discussion listed above, I think RoR members tend to do well with items #3 and #4, but I hope to see more attention to numbers 1 and 2.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 1:36pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks for posting that, Steve. I saved a copy locally. I may need it some day.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 10/27, 1:38pm)


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Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 7:55pmSanction this postReply
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Luke,

I really liked that flowchart - such a simple thing, but it gives me hope that we can all get ourselves a little more deeply into the habit of arguing in ways that end up putting the most logical argument ahead of just winning.

We could look at almost any thread here that is contentious and see many, many examples of people just dropping approaches that are successfully overturned, but without a word of acknowledgment, and going on to other arguments.

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Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 9:22pmSanction this postReply
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I also very much like Ed's article
http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Thompson/Rules_of_Engagement_for_Those_Discussions_Aimed_at_Progress_(ie_Rational_Discussions).shtml

Great flow chart!


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Monday, October 29, 2012 - 11:23amSanction this postReply
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Oh my goodness. I know so many "smart" people that need to look at this and actually understand it. I will be saving it locally as well, thanks!

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 7:20amSanction this postReply
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Wow, love that.....thanks.

As the moderator of the wirednewyork.com forums this flow chart is 'exceedingly' helpful. Particularly because it is NYC: need I say more.....

Thanks again to not only Steve, but all the terrific folks here on the ROR forum. Sincerely.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 - 7:56amSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Terry, Jules, Dan.

It is a nifty creation. I suspect it was made by Adam Brown, co-founder of the Atheism website where it resides.

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Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 3:03pmSanction this postReply
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In the 4 point list, I would add the obligation to answer relevant questions. Perhaps this is part of offering evidence, but I find that the refusal to answer a question is one of the most common 'cheats' in debate.

The other is refusal to understand what is being said. This is sometimes called a 'straw man' argument. In my experience, this is THE most common way to 'win' a debate with a bad argument. One simply never, ever understands the good argument. And since psychology is not a science, there is no way to prove that someone is pretending when they appear not to understand.

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