This, to me, is an interesting summary of Athenian Democracy
Crudely summarized by me as follows: (don't take my word for it, read it.)
1] Anyone(male) could not only speak at Assembly, but listen as well. In fact, it was an obligation for all(including female)to listen at Assembly, to be informed. But only Athenian Citizens could vote. However, the non-egalitarianism of ideas was strictly enforced; 'bakers' who stood up to put forth on the topic of 'building' were loudly laughed away by the crowd, intent as it was to self-police the strength of its Democracy. If you stood up at the Assembly to speak, you damn well better have an informed something to say. There was no egalitarianism of opinion.
2] Membership in the roles of Athenian Citizenry was achieved after two years of military training/service, passing through the Ethebes. Of the many occupants of Athens, many of whom who could speak at Assembly and had an obligation to listen at Assembly, only a fraction were Athenian Citizens with voting rights. And it was possible to lose that status. See 3.
3] Idiots who passed that hurdle could lose their right to vote for being idiots. Idiocy included debt to the state. This was common sense; if someone was already bleeding the state, then giving them the power to ask for more blood was not regarded as a reasonable thing to encourage, and so, it was explicitly forbidden.
4] Athenian Citizens who passed those hurdles were paid to participate in debates in the Assembly; not just the poor, but including the poor, who passed those hurdles. This was paid for by penalties on those with debts to the state.
If American democracy was anywhere near Athenian Democracy, what is the possibility that we ever see the spectacle of an Obama in office?
Compare the above with the modern 'correct historical narrative' retelling of Athenian Democracy; pure democracy of 'The People.' The cherry picking from history. Cleanup in aisle nine?
Remove the gender bias, and me and the wife would move to that Athens in a heartbeat.
(Edited by Fred Bartlett on 4/15, 9:54am)