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The sea releasing CO2 is a relatively rare phenomenon, and as stated on the previous page; "compared to anthropogenic emissions that effect is very small". Of course it's rare, you dolt — according to your own citation http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=13 it occurs only after 800 years into a warming period, for 5,000 years. Right now I'm sure it's a very small effect compared to human activity.
So, in summary, the lag of CO2 behind temperature doesn't tell us much about global warming. [But it may give us a very interesting clue about why CO2 rises at the ends of ice ages. The 800-year lag is about the amount of time required to flush out the deep ocean through natural ocean currents. So CO2 might be stored in the deep ocean during ice ages, and then get released when the climate warms.] You continue to contradict you own evidence and keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Me: I'm not sure whether you are intentionally doing this or are just so confused you're deceiving yourself. I, with Kurt believe that you would impose restrictions at the drop of a hat if you had the authority."
Andrew: Why do you believe this?
Well, perhaps I'm guilty of lumping you with the Gore group which truly believes in massive, economy-destroying intervention. I honestly can't find anything in what you have actually said but I came across some interesting contradictions in your philosophy. In your profile you identify yourself as a "non-objectivist" while in the following posting you definitely portray yourself as an objectivist. You seem to be a chameleon, changing your color whenever it suits you.
http://rebirthofreason.com/Forum/GeneralForum/0879.shtml#12
I never spoke about compromising principles, that way well have been a mistake on my part. When I said Objectivism needs to change, I was referring to the objectivist movement, as opposed to the philosophy. Our methods are wrong, the way we advocate voluntary co-operation between people whilst at the same time spend much of our effort attacking the principles of other opbjectivists, as opposed to statists, fundamentalists, socialists, and many others, points out a deep contradiction within our movement. Rand was especially guilty of this, such as when she attacked the libertarian movement. Of course, we (Myself included) may find that Objectivism is a superior philosophy to libertarianism, but this is self-defeating. Libertarians should be our allies, as should all right-wing groups, but ESPECIALLY fellow objectivists, whether we regard them right or wrong on specific subjects, as we have more to gain from co-operating with them than we do but creating a line of ideological difference.
Sam
(Edited by Sam Erica on 5/02, 7:19am)
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