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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 6:26pmSanction this postReply
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As usual with these type of things, I often disagree with both the questions asked and the choices offered. But I find it an interesting exercise, nonetheless. For what it's worth, then, here are my results:

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate   (100%)
2. Kent McManigal   (80%)  
3. Ron Paul   (70%) 
4. Chuck Hagel   (58%)  
5. Dennis Kucinich   (50%)  
6. Bill Richardson   (49%)  
7. Tom Tancredo   (48%)  
8. Mitt Romney   (47%)  
9. Duncan Hunter   (46%)  
10. Al Gore   (46%)  
11. Newt Gingrich   (46%)  
12. Barack Obama   (44%)  
13. Hillary Clinton   (44%) 
14. John McCain   (44%)  
15. Joseph Biden   (44%)  
16. Sam Brownback   (43%) 
17. Wesley Clark   (42%)  
18. Fred Thompson   (40%)  
19. Mike Huckabee   (39%)  
20. Rudolph Giuliani   (38%)
21. John Edwards   (36%)  
22. Christopher Dodd   (35%)  
23. Jim Gilmore   (35%)  
24. Mike Gravel   (32%)  
25. Tommy Thompson   (28%)  
26. Elaine Brown   (21%)  



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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 7:06pmSanction this postReply
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Given that Romney, McCain and Tancredo are excluded by litmus tests that the poll didn't ask, I'd say this is pretty good. I like the fact that you can weight your responses.


1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Mitt Romney (84%)
3. John McCain (83%)
4. Rudolph Giuliani (81%)
5. Chuck Hagel (76%)
6. Newt Gingrich (76%)
7. Fred Thompson (75%)
8. Sam Brownback (73%)
9. Tom Tancredo (67%)
10. Duncan Hunter (62%)
11. Kent McManigal (60%)
12. Jim Gilmore (58%)
13. Tommy Thompson (58%)
14. Mike Huckabee (54%)
15. Ron Paul (50%)
16. Al Gore (35%)
17. Hillary Clinton (30%)
18. Bill Richardson (30%)
19. Joseph Biden (28%)
20. John Edwards (27%)
21. Christopher Dodd (27%)
22. Wesley Clark (21%)
23. Barack Obama (19%)
24. Dennis Kucinich (16%)
25. Mike Gravel (6%)
26. Elaine Brown (4%)

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 7:52pmSanction this postReply
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I have to agree with Bob on this one. I usually disagree with the premise of the question and the answer that are provided. Even still, if I try and answer these questions as best I can I end up with my highest rated candidate at only 65%. When there is noone to vote for who do you vote for?

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Kent McManigal (65%)
3. Mitt Romney (58%)
4. Newt Gingrich (56%)
5. Ron Paul (56%)
6. Chuck Hagel (55%)
7. Sam Brownback (50%)
8. Tom Tancredo (50%)
9. John McCain (48%)
10. Fred Thompson (47%)
11. Rudolph Giuliani (47%)
12. Duncan Hunter (43%)
13. Jim Gilmore (40%)
14. Mike Huckabee (39%)
15. Bill Richardson (38%)
16. Tommy Thompson (37%)
17. Al Gore (35%)
18. Dennis Kucinich (33%)
19. Hillary Clinton (32%)
20. Barack Obama (30%)
21. Joseph Biden (30%)
22. Wesley Clark (28%)
23. Christopher Dodd (26%)
24. Mike Gravel (26%)
25. John Edwards (24%)
26. Elaine Brown (10%)

P.S. – I should have asked before: what are your litmus test that a candidate must past?
(Edited by Steve
on 5/08, 8:02pm)


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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 8:07pmSanction this postReply
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I answered "neither" for a lot of the questions (but kept the weight to "low" when I did). Almost every other answer (I think, except one of them) I took the strong position and weighted it of high importance ...

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate   (100%)
2. Kent McManigal   (92%)  Click here for info
3. Ron Paul   (81%)  Click here for info
4. Newt Gingrich   (70%)  Click here for info
5. Tom Tancredo   (68%)  Click here for info
6. Chuck Hagel   (64%)  Click here for info
7. Duncan Hunter   (63%)  Click here for info
8. John McCain   (60%)  Click here for info
9. Mitt Romney   (57%)  Click here for info
10. Fred Thompson   (54%)  Click here for info
11. Sam Brownback   (54%)  Click here for info
12. Rudolph Giuliani   (49%)  Click here for info
13. Bill Richardson   (47%)  Click here for info
14. Jim Gilmore   (46%)  Click here for info
15. Tommy Thompson   (41%)  Click here for info
16. Dennis Kucinich   (36%)  Click here for info
17. Christopher Dodd   (35%)  Click here for info
18. Al Gore   (33%)  Click here for info
19. Hillary Clinton   (33%)  Click here for info
20. Joseph Biden   (32%)  Click here for info
21. Mike Huckabee   (31%)  Click here for info
22. Barack Obama   (30%)  Click here for info
23. Mike Gravel   (29%)  Click here for info
24. Wesley Clark   (25%)  Click here for info
25. John Edwards   (23%)  Click here for info
26. Elaine Brown   (14%)  Click here for info


Looks like John Edwards -- or Barack, or H. Clinton -- won't be getting MY vote anytime soon! And if L. Peikoff says you have got to vote Democrat in the upcoming election -- order to consider yourself a "true" Objectivist -- then it looks like I'm screwed!

;-)

Ed


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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 8:18pmSanction this postReply
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Interesting. My presumption is that Giuliani becomes the Republican candidate and that I will vote for him. I expected Ron Paul to score higher for me than Giuliani. I may have biased my results by thinking of Giuliani while doing the poll, but I'm not quite sure how that would work.

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Kent McManigal (65%)
3. Newt Gingrich (64%)
4. John McCain (63%)
5. Mitt Romney (63%)
6. Rudolph Giuliani (63%)
7. Tom Tancredo (63%)
8. Chuck Hagel (60%)
9. Fred Thompson (59%)
10. Ron Paul (59%)
11. Duncan Hunter (56%)
12. Sam Brownback (54%)
13. Jim Gilmore (48%)
14. Mike Huckabee (42%)
15. Bill Richardson (42%)
16. Tommy Thompson (41%)
17. Al Gore (37%)
18. Christopher Dodd
19. Hillary Clinton
20. Joseph Biden (32%)
21. Barack Obama (30%)
22. Dennis Kucinich (30%)
23. Wesley Clark (29%)
24. John Edwards (27%)
25. Mike Gravel (20%)
26. Elaine Brown (11%)

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 8:24pmSanction this postReply
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If we had instant run-off voting allowing for 4 potential candidates -- and we should have instant run-off voting allowing for 4 potential candidates -- then my 4-candidate run-off would be ...

2. Kent McManigal   (92%)  Click here for info
3. Ron Paul   (81%)  Click here for info
4. Newt Gingrich   (70%)  Click here for info
5. Tom Tancredo   (68%)  Click here for info


But Kent ...

SelectSmart.com

... looks just a little too much like Kid Rock to get anywhere in the political scene (if you ask me), so it's logical to narrow it down to 3 potentials for myself: R. Paul 1st; N. Gingrich second (if Paul doesn't meet his share of the 1st-pick votes); and then T. Tancredo (if both Paul and Gingrich don't get enough "1st picks").

Ed


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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 8:45pmSanction this postReply
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Early fun with the run-off idea ...

If we get rid of K. McManigal (because of the "Kid Rock Effect" mentioned earlier), and we take the top-3 picks of the 5 voters so far, it's a dead-heat between Ron Paul, Mitt Romney (2 out of 5 votes each) and N. Gingrich -- though Gingrich was 2nd choice twice, and first choice only once. If we rate each person's first 3 non-Kent choices with 3 points, 2 points, and 1 point, respectively -- then the results are ...

R. Paul -- 7 points
M. Romney -- 7 points
N. Gingrich -- 7 points
J. McCain -- 4 points
C. Hagel -- 2 points
T. Tancredo -- 1 point
R. Guliani -- 1 point
D. Kucinich -- 1 point

Ed


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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 8:54pmSanction this postReply
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Well, the litmus tests should have been called "deal breakers." Tancredo is running solely to advocate shipping every illegal Mexican back over the border. He has been trumpeting this on Fox News for a year. I am for regulated but otherwise open immigration. Just pay a fee, show identity, minimal standards of health and law-abiding-ness, and a willingness to work and come on in - just don't ask for welfare.

McCain has taken more money from lobbyists than any other Republican, especially from the telecom sector which he regulated, and he was as corrupt during the S&L scandal as were the Clintons. He sponsored the unconstitutional McCain-Feingold bill. And whenever the Republicans have needed him most, he's always managed to become the darling of the press by joining the Democrats on "principle."

Romney's basically a Republican Kerry, a hairdo. His "principles" have changed regularly to fit the direction of the wind.

Giuliani and Gingrich have stood on their principles, public sentiment be damned.

Thompson seems charismatic, but I don't know enough about him to have made a decision.

Ted



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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 - 8:58pmSanction this postReply
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Ed, you should only count Giuliani and then Gingrich as having my actual support. The poll did not ask the relevant disqualifiers for the others.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 4:03amSanction this postReply
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Of my top matches, Kent McManigal has already dropped out of the race, and, Ron Paul is "pro-life" and thinks the equivalent of a new Berlin Wall between the U.S. and Mexico is a good idea.

The culture war continues...


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 6:31amSanction this postReply
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Wow interesting - for me Ron Paul was in the middle - which makes sense, and Barak was like next to last!  Mitt was up near the top, interestingly, as were most of the mainstream Republicans.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 9:16amSanction this postReply
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WHO IS KENT MCMANIGAL?  I had never heard of him before reading all this.


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 9:56amSanction this postReply
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Kent McManigal first (91%) then Ron Paul (83%), then Barack Obama...  hmmm...

The thing with Ron Paul is that he brings conservative religious and nationalist baggage with his laissez-faire steamer trunk.

Personally, I am going to CafeExpress to buy Bartlett bumper stickers.


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 12:45pmSanction this postReply
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Yes, let's build that Berlin Wall South.  I'm so sick of them damn Mexicans coming here, exploding themselves, slitting people's throats, and then picking our crops without collecting social security benefits.  They're small and brown and look just like Arabs, so who needs'em?

Ted


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 2:04pmSanction this postReply
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Theoretical Ideal Candidate   (100%)
2. Sam Brownback   (71%)  Click here for info
3. Chuck Hagel   (70%)  Click here for info
4. Newt Gingrich   (70%)  Click here for info
5. Mitt Romney   (66%)  Click here for info
6. Duncan Hunter   (64%)  Click here for info
7. Kent McManigal   (64%)  Click here for info
8. Tom Tancredo   (62%)  Click here for info
9. Fred Thompson   (61%)  Click here for info
10. John McCain   (58%)  Click here for info
11. Jim Gilmore   (56%)  Click here for info
12. Rudolph Giuliani   (56%)  Click here for info
13. Ron Paul   (49%)  Click here for info
14. Mike Huckabee   (45%)  Click here for info
15. Tommy Thompson   (45%)  Click here for info
16. Hillary Clinton   (33%)  Click here for info
17. Joseph Biden   (31%)  Click here for info
18. Bill Richardson   (28%)  Click here for info
19. Dennis Kucinich   (25%)  Click here for info
20. Al Gore   (24%)  Click here for info
21. John Edwards   (19%)  Click here for info
22. Elaine Brown   (17%)  Click here for info
23. Mike Gravel   (17%)  Click here for info
24. Christopher Dodd   (16%)  Click here for info
25. Wesley Clark   (16%)  Click here for info
26. Barack Obama   (14%)  Click here for info


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 2:50pmSanction this postReply
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Chris,

Kent McManigal


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 3:53pmSanction this postReply
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I ended up with 68% McManigal 65% Hagel and 61% Paul.

Guess I better get on the Bloomberg and Hagel Unity 08 bandwagon.


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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 - 6:31pmSanction this postReply
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1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate   (100%)
2. Kent McManigal   (95%)  Click here for info
3. Ron Paul   (80%)  Click here for info
4. Chuck Hagel   (60%)  Click here for info
5. Newt Gingrich   (57%)  Click here for info
6. Dennis Kucinich   (51%)  Click here for info
7. Mitt Romney   (49%)  Click here for info
8. John McCain   (47%)  Click here for info
9. Tom Tancredo   (47%)  Click here for info
10. Bill Richardson   (47%)  Click here for info
11. Barack Obama   (45%)  Click here for info
12. Fred Thompson   (45%)  Click here for info
13. Sam Brownback   (45%)  Click here for info
14. Christopher Dodd   (44%)  Click here for info
15. Al Gore   (43%)  Click here for info
16. Duncan Hunter   (43%)  Click here for info
17. Hillary Clinton   (40%)  Click here for info
18. Joseph Biden   (40%)  Click here for info
19. Wesley Clark   (39%)  Click here for info
20. Mike Gravel   (38%)  Click here for info
21. Rudolph Giuliani   (37%)  Click here for info
22. Mike Huckabee   (35%)  Click here for info
23. John Edwards   (35%)  Click here for info
24. Tommy Thompson   (33%)  Click here for info
25. Jim Gilmore   (30%)  Click here for info
26. Elaine Brown   (16%)  Click here for info


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