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Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 11:33pmSanction this postReply
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The main link did not work and when I tried Google on key words, I got the same error.  However ...

Some of this is covered in a Reason Privatization Report from 2006
http://reason.org/files/28922bb003306e237313f62835566d1e.pdf

This is closer in time and place to the original article
From The Gauntlet, February 15,  2001
"In recent years, pressure on universities to provide the market with qualified individuals within the information technologies field has been growing," pointed out University of Calgary Students' Union vice president academic Mark Hoekstra. "The move to give DeVry programs degree [status]will quite possibly lower the pressure on universities to adapt their academic programs to satisfy the market. This has the potential to strengthen the university's place and mandate within our society."
http://thegauntlet.ca/story/2109

And here is another backward link from that
From The Gauntlet, May 18, 2000
The controversy surrounds Ontario's proposal to grant colleges the ability to offer applied degrees on a pilot-project basis, and the approval for the establishment of private, degree-granting institutions in Ontario.
http://thegauntlet.ca/story/1884


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 - 12:48amSanction this postReply
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Just as the plural of "anecdote" is not "data" allow me to add that the plural of "statement" is not "proof" ahead of making some anecdotal statements.

It depends on what you mean by "private."  Harvard, Dartmouth, Yale....  University of Chicago ... Stanford....
Baylor, Rice...

America has no national university system.  Our schools compete.  Therefore, regardless of how they are funded, they attract students from all over the world. Michigan versus Michigan State and Ohio versus Ohio State,the funding mechanism defines internal problems (bureaucracy, conformity) that are mitigated by the marketplace.

  That same factor was important in the German universities of previous centuries: tenure was rare; professors applied around for new appointments on better terms; schools bid to lure good professors; three to eight years at a school was typical.

In the USA, the governments do not accreditate schools.  The accreditation organizations are entities in their own right.  For example, a few years back the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools removed its accreditation from Central State University in Ohio, a public school.  (The school has since re-earned its status.) 

However, in the USA, as the federal government grants and subsidizes payments for higher education -- GI Bills, of course, but Stafford Loans and other programs -- the US Dept of Education does grant recognition based on other accreditations.  The US DOE also warns against phony schools and diploma mills, while at the same time acknowledging that some unaccredited schools offer valuable services to their client students.

Managers hire in their own image.  In the 1980s and 1990s, computer certifications were considered valuable for getting good jobs.  Basically, managers who were Certified Data Processors and Certified Computer Professionals hired others who held the same papers.  A few years back it was Novell and Microsoft and today it is Cisco and Microsoft certifications that are valued. 

As I was completing an associate's degree in 2007, I had a sociology class in which the instructor and I had different statistics for the number of college graduates in America today.  Self-reporting seems to inflate the numbers, but basically 20% to 28% of adult Americans have bachelor's degrees. 
 (from 2005)
The Northeast had the highest proportion of college graduates (30.9 percent), followed by the West (30.2 percent), the Midwest (26.0 percent) and the South (25.5 percent).
Asians had the highest proportion with a bachelor’s degree or higher (49.4 percent), followed by Non-Hispanic whites (30.6 percent), African-Americans (17.6 percent) and Hispanics (12.1 percent).
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/004214.html


The 2002 ACS survey, which looked at graduate-degree attainment for the 25-and-over population, found some of the highest levels of graduate and professional degrees in Massachusetts (14.5 percent), Maryland (14.1 percent), Connecticut (13.7 percent), Virginia (12.9 percent), New York (12.6 percent) and Vermont (12.3 percent). West of the Mississippi River, Colorado and New Mexico stood out with graduate degree rates of 11.5 percent and 11.0 percent, respectively. Graduate and professional degrees include master's, law, medical and doctorate degrees.
From "The American Community Survey" of the Census Bureau

Comparing the USA to other places can be apples and oranges, as Oxford grants undergraduate master's degrees and bachelor's degrees of higher status.  Similarly, Canada and India have three-year bachelor degree programs, which, in fact, is the European tradition.  Similarly, a doctorate can take four to six years in Europe or the USA.  You can do it in two years here, but that is rare elsewhere.

When I ran for the Board of Trustees at our community college -- county property tax millage; therefore county election -- the woman who won impressed listeners with her expected doctorate in something or other from Phoenix University.  The administration of the college looked favorably on her because online learning is a new money maker.  You can pile in the enrollment without increasing the infrastructure.  At my university, the sociology professors had a shootout when one of them with an online course granted over-ride enrollments to enough students to affect the sizes of other classes: his incentive was his being paid an extra $100 per head.

My experience is that online classes require more work, but I learn less.  Discrete and metricable testing ignores integration.  All tests are open book.  Anyone can be the student.  Online "discussions" tend toward minimalism.  I get the same grades, but I have less respect for the achievement.  Often, my best interactions with my peers took place outside the perimeter of classroom discussion -- waiting for class or after class. You don't get that online.

If you need to know something because you need to know it, then it does not matter how you learn it.  But if you want to get hired by someone with a university degree, then you need one, too.  That was a big motivator for me.  I was competing against people half my age and half my skills but with university degrees.  I was not an employee, but a contractor.  However, the purchase orders specified a four-year degree, so, it seemed pretty clear which way the market was trending.  After a couple of decades in computing, just being smart and working hard was not enough.  As it was, I found other interests, but the fact remains that the market is always right.

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 3/21, 1:01am)


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Monday, March 22, 2010 - 1:05pmSanction this postReply
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Michael:

I was not an employee, but a contractor.

And now, you've been forced by the tribe to do something else.

In the eyes of those considering hiring you, the IRS assumed you were an employee, even if you were a contractor.

As more and more businesses became aware of this potential entanglement with the IRS, it became harder and harder for contractors like you(and I)to find work.

Because of a specific act of legislation, aimed not at lawyers, not at accountants, not at artists, not at painters, and not at mural painters, but aimed explicitly at contractors just like you(and just like me.)

I've been doing this for 25 years plus, and have found no correlation between university degree and capability. But I have noticed that 25 years ago(when I knew much less, and had less experience), the market for this kind of work was much more vibrant and free, and over the years, it has been shepherded into increasingly narrow niches(except for the web stuff, which is a total low cost commodity.)

Companies still hire contractors, when they must, but more and more companies are aware of the special IRS hurdle, a potential entanglement. Even if you can jump the hurdles, companies are gun-shy, because of the need to have to jump those hurdles. Even when you win with the IRS, you lose. So, why take the risk?

What we need is another speech by a fucking politician in this corrupt piece of shit rotted out shell of a once free nation, about small businesses and technology and so on.



The Joe Stack suicide note illustrated the law,



SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL - Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

"(d) EXCEPTION. - This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work."

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. - The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Note:

* "another person" is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship.
* "taxpayer" is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop.
* "individual", "employee", or "worker" is you.



and

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/us/19tax.html



Imagine. Why wouldn't same apply to 'lawyers' or 'accountants' acting as 'contractors?' That is, the very people who put the 'contract' into 'contractors?'

The law was sponsored by Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Democrat of New York, as a favor to I.B.M., which wanted a $60 million tax break on its overseas business.

Under budget rules in effect at the time, any tax breaks had to be paid for with new revenues. By requiring software engineers to be employees, a Congressional report estimated, income and payroll taxes would rise by $60 million a year because employees had few opportunities to cheat on their taxes.



Let me read that one more time: "By requiring software engineers to be employees..."

By requiring what? What kind of fucking country is this?

I've been a self-employed "S" Corp contractor for +25 years. The folks who have purchased my services as n 'contractor' have included the USAF, USNavy, USArmy, USCG, USMC, and several national labs. If they now want to claim I've been acting primarily as 'an employee', then they got some 'splainin to do, and need to recalculate a shitload -- millions -- in 'employee payroll.'

And, if they want to aim that gun at just my commercial customers, then the nature of 'government' has once again exposed the ugly truth of what it is, and there is only one problem with the Joe Stack story. After quietly going to the courts for years with his hat in his hand, and being told 'go fuck yourself' by the tribe, he failed to find a big enough airplane, and he flew it into the wrong building in the wrong city.


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Fred

















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