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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 3:12amSanction this postReply
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This world draws closer and closer to enacting The Americans with No Life Act.

How long will it be until people cannot post personal dating ads unless they refuse to discriminate on the basis of gender and orientation?

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 10/23, 3:20am)


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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:33amSanction this postReply
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Exactly! That's precisely where this leads -- just as Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which was ostensibly designed to prohibit racial discrimination, has lead inexorably to racial discrimination mandated by the government. Whereas the original intent of Title VII was to make racial discrimination illegal in private business, the statute has subsequently been interpreted to justify affirmative action, which makes racial discrimination mandatory in private business. And this, despite assurances by proponent's of the statute that no such thing as quotas could ever be inferred from it.

Consider, for example, the "famous last words" of Senator Hubert Humphrey when the Civil Rights Bill was being debated in Congress: "Contrary to the allegations of some opponents of this title, there is nothing in it that will give any power to the Commission or to any court to require hiring, firing, or promotion of employees in order to meet a racial 'quota' or to achieve a certain racial balance...."

Even more outrageous is that affirmative action violates explicit disclaimers included in Title VII itself. Section 703 (j) reads as follows:

"Nothing contained in this title shall be interpreted to require any employer, employment agency, labor organization, or joint labor-management committee subject to this title to grant preferential treatment to any individual or to any group because of the race, color, religion, sex or national origin of such individual or group on account of any imbalance which may exist with respect to the total number of percentages of persons of any race, color, religion or sex, or national origin employed by any employer . . . ."

Once the government can violate freedom of association in order to prevent discrimination, it can do so in order to mandate discrimination, even to the point of perverting and explicitly transgressing its very own civil rights statutes!

Now we have anti-discrimination law being invoked to prohibit people of a particular religion from advertising for others of the same religion as roommates on the grounds that the ad excludes people of other religions. So, we shouldn't be too surprised if a personals ad seeking people of a particular race or ethnicity is declared illegal on the grounds that it excludes people of other races and ethnicities. Be careful what you wish for -- or pass into law -- you may get it in ways that you never imagined!



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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:37amSanction this postReply
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In many ways, roommate situations resemble the intimacy (and potential for conflict) of romance situations with respect to cohabiting lovers.

That government officials would become this intrusive into private domiciles and voluntary relationships absolutely boggles my mind.

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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:43amSanction this postReply
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if it really does boggle your mind, then I fear you're becoming as naive and full of yourself as the average American; that really scares me...

Here's the reality: Americans are about as in favor of freedom and individual rights as the majority of the rest of the world. The only difference is we have an amazing constitution...that the majority pays lip service to and otherwise doesn't care about, except for their own personal desires.

As even Napoleon once said "a man will fight harder for his interests than his rights".

And as Tears for Fears sang in 1985 "Everybody Wants to Rule the World".

Y'know, I'm not shocked that the rest of the world is this stupid and corrupt, but I find it sickening that the folks here seem to be surprised by it...

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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:17pmSanction this postReply
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Bend over, grab your ankles, and prepare to experience some "orientation diversity" in your backside.

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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 1:22pmSanction this postReply
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I think that if you asked them, most people would find this prohibition unacceptable and an unexpected consequence of current civil rights legislation, even though it is a logical outgrowth of it.




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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 3:25pmSanction this postReply
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I would bet good money if the ad was placed by a muslim and had requested a muslim roommate there would be no civil rights complaint.

This is of course absurd, and reminds me of an ad I wanted to place in my local paper to fill some seasonal positions at my business. This was back when unemployment was low and dealing with an area that is mostly high skilled labor I was desperately trying to fill positions at my restaurant that are of the low-skilled variety. I wanted the ad to say at the end "college students welcome to apply" in an effort to generate more applications. The paper refused to put it in because they said it violated laws against age discrimination.

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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 4:34pmSanction this postReply
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John, that sounds like one of those "unconsummated transactions" about which I recently learned in my managerial economics textbook.

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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 9:09amSanction this postReply
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In roommate situations or where an owner is renting out units in a 4-or-fewer unit complex where he lives, it's legal to discriminate in who you PICK to rent to, but not in who you ADVERTISE for (except that roommates can specify male or female). Aside from the moral issue, it's just stupid from a practical standpoint, because this Christian woman has to wade through all these applicants to pick out the Christians, rather than just advertising for them in the first place.

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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 10:29amSanction this postReply
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Some official civil rights communist, with one of those permanent condescending smiles pasted on her face, was on the news last night talking about this case. She said exactly the same thing:  You can't advertise what you actually want in a roommate.  

These people are so anti-mind, its nauseating. 

Torches and pitchforks to follow, I hope.


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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 6:53pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks John A. for the example of personal experience. From your post is would seem your business is being discriminated against by the publisher. How does ones age have anything to to with being a college student. An example of sporadic academic attendance one could point out Hirochi Honda a person that started a business and was in and out of school on a as needed basis.
Suppose the woman has to go appear before a judge,will she be able to confront the accusers witness. Implications are mounting, as now the woman is accused of  being discriminating and possibly  attempting to sublet accommodations. In reality it is up to the woman what will constitute a christian. Hopefully the citizen has filed their complaint under their 'given' name.
Having been a 'bluecollar worker" and enjoying the spit out of the endeavour, the side walk is no treat. Twenty years ago nea twenty five, one went and submitted an application at a business. yeah possibly it got tossed in aheap with a myriad others having class and talent, who knows. Today one has to go to the local hall and apply at a temporary employment agency. The process is similar to subjecting oneself  to a civil service exam, yet not as extensive or explicit.  
The woman has indicated that for lack of  a better word that the spiritually handicapped will misunderstand her supplication..Perhaps ones definition of christian, is simply an asshole that's been around the world?  Do ya think her accuser misread her intent?


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