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Tuesday, February 5, 2013 - 5:30pmSanction this postReply
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Even though I live in Austin, I am going to miss this.

I heard Andrew Bernstein speak just a couple of years ago when I was still in Ann Arbor.  He is a nice guy and all.  Most of the regular posters here display just as deep an understanding of Objectivism as Bernstein. The regular posters here also place current events into context according to an objective standard; and they do so quite well.  Bernstein is all right, too. 

If you view any of the Hitchens/D'Souza Debates on YouTube such as this one at Aquinas College, you will see, as I did, that as much as we agree with Hitchens, D'Souza wins the debate on points.  D'Souza's points are quite easy to make and very hard to refute.

If you add up all the deaths caused by Christianity, the witchhunts, the crusades, all of it, you might have one million or two million at most.  If you look at the horrors committed by atheists Stalin and Mao (and their lesser copycats), you lose track in the tens of millions at about 50 millions.  How can you deny that even at its worst, Christianity is better than atheism?

I figure that D'Souza is going to wipe the floor with Bernstein who is minor league compared to Christopher Hitchens.

Also, of course, this not like a boxing match or a baseball game where a winner will be determined.  It is just a venue for fans to cheer for their side. 

(Part One is the Introduction. Part Two starts here. D'Souza argues that the most important virtues of our civilization including those claimed by atheists are essentially Christian. Compassion was a vice to Aristotle.  Christianity ended slavery in the late Roman world.  And so on and so on.  Again, lest anyone here question my Objectivism, I only say that D'Souza is a good debater.)

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 2/05, 5:44pm)


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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 - 5:19amSanction this postReply
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I have no doubt that Dinesh D'Souza's debate tactics are very persuasive to those who agree with him. If you don't agree with him, his tactics seem winning until you realize what they are. Then you realize he sells snake oil.

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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 - 5:23amSanction this postReply
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I call these events "public master debating sessions" because the goal is to stroke one's ego, gain intense pleasure from one's own imagination, contort intense facial expressions, make a mess on others, and flush all resulting effort down the drain with no productive progeny to show for all that effort.

In simpler terms, the goal is to win at all costs, not to seek truth.

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Wednesday, February 6, 2013 - 11:13amSanction this postReply
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I'm going. I love Masters Tourneys with published competitors.

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Friday, February 8, 2013 - 8:53pmSanction this postReply
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The Christain claimed that charity & forgiveness were good.

The Objectivist failed to point out that charity and forgiveness can be bad:

Bad Charity: Giving resources to your enemy, or giving resources to someone when trading with someone else would have been better

Bad Forgiveness: Forgiveness is only justified after
retaliation and restoration. Without these components of justice here in this life, we have pacifism, where people who initiate force can run rampant.

The Christian gave a definition of faith that was contrary to the Objectivist definition, which was misleading/dishonest.

The Objectivist did an excellent job repeating the positives of Objectivist ethics: that one should use reason & evidence to guide and make the most of this life.

The Christian was Capitalist, which was awesome. He made some attacks against some athiest groups, such as communists, which was valid given the debate title, but unfortunate that he spent so much time repeating these points, particularly given that the Objectivist rebutted with that Christianity was not the most evil but the 2nd most evil (and that Objectivism is the best).

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