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Saturday, October 12, 2013 - 10:53pmSanction this postReply
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I was just going to post the link to the Time article, that says that an Ayn Rand t-shirt is like a Che t-shirt, but apparently, it's much worse!

(Edited by Jeff Landauer on 10/12, 11:01pm)


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Sunday, October 13, 2013 - 6:54amSanction this postReply
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Aside from how the quote was heavily edited, I'm wondering if Peikoff had anything to do with it?

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Sunday, October 13, 2013 - 7:39amSanction this postReply
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Yes, Tress, I was going to offer the same speculation.  I know that many similar items on Cafe Press were sold and abandoned over the years.  I believe that if not in our own archives here then on one of the other O-ish boards is a story from a woman who posted her nasty-gram from the ARI lawyer. The general audience response was that the seller was violating AR / ARI intellectual property.

(It is difficult to have a dispassionate discussion of IP.)


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Sunday, October 13, 2013 - 8:31amSanction this postReply
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Lol, that would be me! I forgot about that.

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Sunday, October 13, 2013 - 8:51amSanction this postReply
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Even if the retailers technically violated IP by quoting AR on their clothing, the Estate of AR is very foolish to prosecute given that the ARI mission is to promote Ayn Rand's ideas positively in the culture.

I briefly reviewed "fair use" on Google and this struck me as "fair use" but I doubt most retailers want to engage in a protracted court battle for a very narrow niche item.

A different Google search found plenty of hits for Ayn Rand clothing such as this one.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 10/13, 8:57am)


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Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 2:49pmSanction this postReply
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Maybe the retailer pulled the shirt when they learned it is not a quote of Ayn Rand.

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Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 6:14amSanction this postReply
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I forgot that...



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Thursday, November 27, 2014 - 10:34amSanction this postReply
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It appears to be the pulling together, and editing of two different sentences in an exchange between the Dean of the architectural school as they expelled Roark.  Referring to designing modern architecture, the dean is saying, "My dear fellow, who will let you?”  And Roark replies, "That’s not the point. The point is, who will stop me?”  Then the two statements were put together.  The concept is clearly Rands, but the words were changed about a bit... while keeping the concept - for the most part.

 

Here is where I got that, and they also mention the Time's Article, the t-shirt, and others who have used this "quote" that isn't quite a quote:

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/10/11/let-me/

 

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I just realized that Stephen Boydstun, in post #5, used the exact same source - the QuoteInvestigator.  Sorry, Stephen, I wasn't trying to steal your effort.

 

(Edited by Steve Wolfer on 11/27, 10:41am)



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Friday, November 28, 2014 - 7:37amSanction this postReply
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Welcome to the new OFFICIAL Atlas Shrugged Movie Blog. We've been extremely busy since the theatrical release of Part 1 and have much to discuss but, before we get started, a word from our sponsor... "The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me." - Ayn Rand

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/2011/07/is-the-official-atlas-shrugged-movie.html

 

(In a different discussion, Fred pointed out that errors propagate.)



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