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Friday, March 9 - 4:46pmSanction this postReply
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President Trump is very foolishly sanctioning dictatorship and appeasing evil -- and thinking he's maybe going to miraculously get a good result from this. But free nations and enslaved ones should never exchange friendly words. Just bombs. Mainly the free nations need to try to liberate the enslaved ones. But Trump has zero idea how to accomplish this. So there's about a 99.9% chance America and world liberty will come out of this proposed meeting (which likely will never happen) weaker, while, equally likely, North Korea and tyranny will come out stronger. Yuuuge strategic blunder! 



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Saturday, March 10 - 12:02amSanction this postReply
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I can understand why you would say that, but my initial reaction was slightly hopeful.  I'm more worried about Trump causing a nuclear war via Twitter escalations than I am worried about appeasement.  It does seem like we've been in a very weird place regarding North Korea for a long time.  It's not like we're still worried that Communism is going to take over all of Asia.  I'm more interested in drawing down our international military presence than preemptively standing up to every dictator still around.



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Saturday, March 10 - 5:02pmSanction this postReply
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Jeff -- Americans have a right to not live in terror of nuclear attack. The American gov't has a sacred legal and moral duty to prevent such attacks. The North Korean dictatorship should have been crushed and replaced a long time ago. So too the gov'ts of nuclear-armed Russia, China, and Pakistan. Trump should only "meet" with Dim Dung-coon if he wants to throttle him with his bare hands. 



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Sunday, March 11 - 5:25amSanction this postReply
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If we move to crush and replace a nuclear-armed government, we will almost certainly get some nuclear missiles coming our way.  So the best strategy for guarding against nuclear attack has to be a balancing act.

 

Also, what could we replace those governments with?  Overthrowing one oligarchy may well lead to setting up another, which may be even worse.



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Monday, March 12 - 3:59pmSanction this postReply
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Harry Ellis meets Hans Gruber.



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Wednesday, March 14 - 11:17amSanction this postReply
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Kyrel: Trump should only "meet" with Dim Dung-coon if he wants to throttle him with his bare hands.

President Trump is incapable of that. 

https://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2018/03/president-trump-to-meet-chairman-kim.html

 

Marshall Kim, however, while perhaps not physically capable, is emotionally oriented to order executions by bizarre means. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/04/08/north-korean-official-reportedly-executed-with-a-flamethrower/

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/world/asia/north-korea-executions-jang-song-thaek.html

 

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 3/14, 11:18am)



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Wednesday, March 14 - 8:43pmSanction this postReply
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Michael -- It's a huge moral and strategic failure and surrender for the president of the U.S. to meet this dictatorial monster. America shouldn't even have diplomatic relations with any of these wretched tyrannies, like China and Russia. This demonseed Dim Dung-coon evidently murdered over 340 innocents so far. So if the meeting takes place it will be a pure loss for America, liberty, civilization, and morality. The proper way to deal with North Korea is, as the old saying goes: Nuke 'em till they glow! 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/23/north-koreas-kim-jong-un-uses-terrifyingly-creative-methods-to-kill-enemies.html 



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Thursday, March 15 - 5:12amSanction this postReply
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Even if it means we get some glowing in America too?



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Friday, March 16 - 4:26amSanction this postReply
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The US has no half-way plans, "no bloody nose strategy." It is all-out or nothing.

From the US Naval Institute NEWS:

 

A so-called “bloody nose strategy” calls for a limited strike against a North Korean target as a military demonstration to cow leaders in Pyongyang after a nuclear or missile test.

“We have no bloody nose strategy. I don’t know what that is,” Adm. Harry Harris told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday in response to a question from Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.).
“I am charged by the national command authority of developing a range of options through the spectrum of violence, and I’m ready to execute whatever the president and the national command authority directs me to do, but a bloody nose strategy is not being contemplated.”

https://news.usni.org/2018/03/15/pacom-harris-north-korea-no-bloody-nose-strategy

 

That article has supporting links to eariler news stories from CNN and WSJ.

 

We are all fully cognizant of the historical precedent that appeasing Hitler did not prevent World War II; and it would have been easiest of all to stop Germany when they moved into the Rheinland, if not at Munich over the Sudentenland in Czechoslovakia, or the Anschluss of Austria.  It only got more costly, ultimately destroying the continent. Or... alternately, should the UK and France not declared war on Germany in response to the invasion of Poland?  And what of the American response? Was it necessary to go to war in Europe and the Pacific?  Where were the interests of the United States? 

 

Japan did not unilaterally attack the United States.  It is also famous that Gen. Billy Mitchell said during the 1922 Naval Summit that war between the US and Japan in the Pacific was inevitable. Note, also, that Henry Luce and others supported China in East Asia, thus pitting the US against Japan in that theater. But China was hardly a democracy. Chiang Kai-shek attempted liaisons with Hitler and in fact hired Italian aviators to train his air force. That disaster led Mme Chiang to come to America to hire the group that came to be The Flying Tigers.  Note, also, that unlike the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, the Flying Tigers had the support of the presidential administration. 

 

My point above is that those historical precedents may or may not inform a policy toward North Korea.

 

I believe that horrific as North Korea is for the people living there, that government's pursuit of nuclear weapons is a defensive strategy, not an offensive plan. I believe that trade and commerce go a long way toward establishing national security. I grant that the "problem of the mad man" (Hitler) warns that being nice does not always work. Yet, American culture dominates the world, not by force of arms, but by offering value for value. "Farm Aid Concerts" may not do anything to prevent or solve problems like Northern Ireland and Palestine. On the other hand, Bruce Springsteen's concert in East Berlin (see here and find others) was a harbinger of the triumph of freedom where force of arms had only created a stalemate.

 

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 3/16, 5:03am)



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Friday, March 16 - 8:58amSanction this postReply
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...should the UK and France not declared war on Germany in response to the invasion of Poland?  And what of the American response? Was it necessary to go to war in Europe and the Pacific? 

 

Necessary?  No, not if a unilateral surrender to Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan is an acceptable option.
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Japan did not unilaterally attack the United States.

 

I've been to Pearl Harbor.  Maybe that is why I am a bit more immune to such nonsense.
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My point above is that those historical precedents may or may not inform a policy toward North Korea.

 

Is that like my saying that the 'points' Marotta made above may or may not be evidence of severe intellectual confusion?
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Bruce Springsteen's concert in East Berlin was a harbinger of the triumph of freedom where force of arms had only created a stalemate.

 

So, there was no need for a cold war because we could just have concerts?  A clever use of words will never make truth out of nonsense.

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Anarchists often find they have to defend a position that is little more than simple pacificsm.  When they have progressive leanings, their pacificsm takes on the belief that the free nations caused the problems by defending themselves.  It also makes an anti-American position fit more comfortably.



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Saturday, March 17 - 12:21amSanction this postReply
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I certainly think Michael is right in that far the best way to overthrow and crush our deadly enemy, the North Korean dictatorship, is to use intellectual means, not military ones. One good strategy might be a sudden and very aggressive "attack" of radio, t'v', and internet propaganda in which the West and America spew out nothing but truth about the moral and practical superiority of freedom and capitalism over tyranny and socialism. The broadcasts could be on multiple channels of multiple types, including very cutting and cruel (and even obscene) personal attacks upon the leadership of the tyranny. Mockery and humor is often an effective destroyer. We need to philosophically annihilate them. 

Unfortunately, America today doesn't have the tools for this. We're intellectually disarmed. We're all morons and slimeballs, philosophically.

Still, I think by right Americans have enough virtue that we don't deserve to live under the terrible nuclear threats of North Korea, or, for that matter, China, Russia, and Pakistan. 

America should never have allowed these dictatorships and ghastly enemies of ours to acquire WMDs. We should have nuked every last one of them the moment we had good evidence that they were close to acquiring such phenomenal weapons. We should have hit them quick and hard, with no mercy, until they abjectly submitted and surrendered.

Let the savages and monsters of the world know: to severely threaten the semi-free, semi-civilized, semi-noble people of America is to DIE. 



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