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Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 7:29pmSanction this postReply
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CHANGING THE WORLD
 
Social species survive in part because some individuals move from one group to another and mitigate in-breeding.  When salmon and sheep do it, we believe that the cause must be chemical.  When people do it, we call them "individualists" and identify the cause as "ideas."  A strong signal -- a good argument -- can cause a social group to splinter, with some following the new call and others staying with the old.  Whether an idea seems "reasonable" depends more on the chemistry of the person learning of the idea than on the merits of the idea.   Most people are collectivists.  Humans associate in tribes and nations and internet chat groups.  Let someone say something "unpopular" and voices rise up to drown out the signal. 
 
Not all new calls are good ideas.  Splinter groups do not always survive and even among those that do, the survivors do not always thrive.  By whatever mutation, individuals with new calls arise in each generation.  Sometimes, following a new call will save the collective from extinction.  The caller becomes a hero.
 
Are humans more complicated than this?  Of course, we are.  We have tremendous brains.  Laying in bed, doing "nothing" we consume thousands of calories a day just mentating. Do people "change their minds"?  We say we do.  We discover or learn a new idea and accept or reject it immediately. Sometimes we later adopt a new idea we rejected initially. 
 
History is loaded with easy examples.  Roman numerals gave way to Arabic and the algorists replaced the abacists.  Rather than overbuild for the centuries the way the Romans did, we now calculate stresses with vector arithmetic and build with the least material necessary for the intended purpose.  Good ideas travel rapidly and take hold firmly. 
 
Some people reject obviously good ideas. Ignorance and cruelty survive and thrive because they are comfortable in the first place and not completely unworkable in the second.  Even as commerce thrived as a result of Arabic numbers and decimal arithmetic, the council of Florence passed a law against their use.  The law did not last.  Good ideas do survive and do thrive.  Some individuals pursue their own goals often (though not always) in despite of popular opposition.  Eventually, an unpopular idea is repeated often enough to become accepted. It took 300 years for algorists to spread their Arabic decimal numbers.  Even so, we still use Roman numerals.
 
If Objectivists were to begin a very specific and targeted campaign to completely eliminate Roman numerals, we would only create an equal and opposite group of dedicated opponents.  This is because seeing Roman numerals (like hearing a patriotic song) causes a chemical response of gratification. Even deeper than this, some people are so constructed that they resist any change.  Then, the battle is engaged.  Ideas are exchanged.  Abstractions are lobbed back and forth.  If a wider audience hears the opposing calls, some members of that audience will choose one side or the other, while others ignore both, and others repeat both calls, and inevitably, several someones will come up with (n+1) alternatives, such as "Base-57 Arithmetic as God's Law."
 
Does Objectivism have value?  I believe so.  Does it make a difference?  It does to me.  Do I think it does to others?  Yes, I do.  I have read Introduction to the Objectivist Epistemology at least twice through, and many parts of it several times over. It has made me a better teacher and a better learner.  In applying the work of Ayn Rand to my tasks as a trainer and technical writer, I "change the world."  The people who leave my sessions or rely on my manuals or tutorials are better able to control and improve their work and their working environments. 
 
The reason that I am able to achieve these small changes is that I do not threaten people.  Rather, I consciously work to make them feel safe and satisfied.  In that mood, they are open to new ideas -- ideas they have already made an investment in gaining: they are predisposed to success.  Sometimes, I fail.  People get sent to me against their will.  Maybe they are having trouble at home.  Whatever the reason, learning does not always take place, and I do not have control over those inner processes or external contexts. 
 
So, too, do people who want to "change the world by spreading Objectivism" meet with greater or lesser success.  I have found that the greatest success comes from giving The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged (or rarely a non-fiction collection), to someone who is already a genetic "outsider" or "individualist."  However, that is no guarantee of success.  Such people tend to be independent thinkers, not likely to join causes.  More than completely satisfied with the efficacy of their own judgment, they are not likely to assimilate mine or Ayn Rand's.  On the other hand, it can be pretty easy to find a "True Believer" of one cause and convert them to another. Whether they stay converted is one question.  Whether they actually profit from the new ideas or merely feel good about them is another question. Whether their acceptance of Objectivism actually "changes the world" is easy to answer: it does not.
 
The SOLO General Forum post "Trouble with Choices - Social Security Privatization" is a perfect example of why Objectivists cannot "change the world."  The writer of the cited op-ed essay is certainly literate.  Furthermore, the op-ed is supported by statistical polls that show that many people agree with the writer's viewpoint.  In the responses to this post, Ethan Dawe said: "I emailed this writer and told him just what I thought about his article. It's bloody disgusting."  My own assessment of that interaction is that Dawe failed to show the writer the error of his ways.
 
Furthermore, deeper consideration reveals to me that the writer of the op-ed piece made a very valid point, one based on empirical observation and both deductive and inductive reasoning.  Many people in America feel that they suffer from "choice overload."   The op-ed closed with this: "In the absence of the moral-superiority claim, a reform that adds to the stresses of the modern world must hold out the compensating hope of more prosperity. There's no case for Social Security privatization unless it brings a serious economic payoff."  That seems like a definable challenge. In my estimation, any advocate of social security privatization would take heed. The issue is real in the minds of those who will oppose security privatization.  Rather than do that, however, some Objectivists prefer to condemn, oppose, denounce, and then congratulate themselves on their intellectual superiority.
 
You cannot change "the" world. You can change "your" world.  If the president of the United States wants to spend $3.3 billion on a mission to Mars, there is not much you can do about it.  If your neighbors want to pass a bond proposal to build a new park, you can stop them.  You can prevent the park and you might even be able to create a privatized park for public enjoyment at a profit.  You cannot undo "modern art."  You can create your own art and sell it to people who appreciate it.  You cannot write a book that will convince everyone in the world that you are right.  You can write a letter to the editor that will tell someone who already agrees with you why both of you are right.  You cannot create a new nation of rational individualists who are immune to the looters of the world.  You can marry someone who shares your values and the two of you can find a good accountant. 
 
It is true that when some arbitrarily large number of people makes these kinds of individual choices for themselves, the world does change.  Attempting to "change the world" transposes cause and effect.
 
Each person does what they believe to be in their self-interest. We here all have computers connected to the internet.  It did not take much to convince us.  Eyeglasses, ballpoint pens, and all-weather windshield wiper blades all sold themselves quite well.  Morality is a harder sell.  Ayn Rand did an excellent job of it.  She invested a lifetime of hard thought in the problems and their solutions.  Her goal, however, was not to "change the world" but to validate herself in her own eyes in order to write the novels she wanted to read.  Other people agreed with her.  She did not create them -- and she did not remake them in her own image -- at least, not at first.  When she actually tried to do that, she failed.  It was inevitable from the nature of man qua man that she would fail.  It is just as inevitable that she would succeed in finding millions of people who already were in their own eyes exactly the kind of people she created in her novels: the kind of people who really do change the world.



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Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 7:55pmSanction this postReply
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Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 8:34pmSanction this postReply
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Ok, I understand what you saying I think.  When you said you can't change the world what you mean is 'the world' as macrocosmic society cannot be changed by the single individual.  You cannot affect macrocosmic society as an individual because macrocosmic society is made up of individuals making choices.  The best method of affecting the world is by working and making your decisions on an individual microcosmic level and then eventualy all these micro level effects will affect the macro.  IS that what you saying?

Shorter version might be:  Think Globaly, Act Locally?

If what I said above is what your saying though then your right, we cannot change the WORLD (big sense).  But we can hone our skills of changing the world (small sense). 
I also do a lot of one on one discussions with people and have had mixed results peaking their interest in what I am talking about, but I have become better at getting explaining my points to people in a way that is not threatening to them and is on their level of understanding.  I am also better at realizing when I am beating my head into a wall with certain people, I have adopted a new responce to these people rather than rebuke their positions I explain to them why they don't agree with me.  This has changed the world (small sense) in the social circle that I walk in and I know that leaks out to effecting the WORLD (big sense) but in a very small way.

Regards,

~E.

P.S. Michael....  The begining of your essay sounds rather determinist until you say that the mind is more complex than that...  Why the talk about the chemicals if you don't think its that simple?

P.P.S.  Change your mind on that Post George? I noticed you deleted it while I was writing mine.

(Edited by Eric J. Tower on 12/22, 8:36pm)


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Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 9:28pmSanction this postReply
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Perhaps this is a dig at the reference in SOLO's Credo to changing the world. I make no apology for it. Our world is one in which the prevalence of Enlightenment values hangs by a thread, significantly because those values are buttressed by faulty epistemology & ethics. For me, as someone who every day thanks his lucky stars that he was born at a time when Enlightenment values *did* still prevail - as opposed to, say, Europe when it was run by the Catholic Church, or a modern-day Islamic theocracy - the need to "change the world" is a matter of urgency. "Change" means to buttress Enlightenment values with a defensible, tenable epistemology & ethics. "Changing the world" therefore means promoting Objectivism at every turn. SOLO is an attempt to do just that, in a manner consistent with Objectivism's content - i.e. with passion. This doesn't mean that everyone has to fight the battle globally as SOLO does (or ARI or TOC). SOLO is a combined effort, after all, to which many who would like to contribute don't have the time to, because of jobs, kids, mortgages, & so on. Such folk are still able to live Objectivism in their daily lives & be effective at that level, as Michael obviously is. Which is fine. More than fine, it's admirable. Indeed, it's incumbent on *all* of us to live it out individually to the best of our ability. Why wouldn't we? It's a joyous thing, after all. But it's not either/or. Globalists shouldn't crap on the ... what shall I call them: localists? ... or vice versa. Each to his own, & each in his own way.

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Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 6:14amSanction this postReply
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Think globally. Drink locally.

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Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 7:11amSanction this postReply
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Lindsay Perigo wrote: Perhaps this is a dig at the reference in SOLO's Credo to changing the world.
Lindsay, I went back and actually read the entire Credo.  When I found this board, I glanced at the first screen, and that was all.  "Sense of Life Objectivists" is a good label that conveys your intent.  It was enough for me.  I participate here to associate with others who share many or most, but probably not all, of my beliefs.  (For one thing, I am an anarchist, which is not an Objectivist tenet.)  Even where disagreement happens, as in the case of "Should We Shoot Traitors?", we all work toward the truth from a shared basic set of beliefs. That makes my life easier and more enjoyable.  When I read the point-counterpoint discussions, for instance on Prostitution, I learn.  Even if the writer's main point is one I disagree with, their subsidiary arguments, the facts they draw on, the contexts in which they array those observations, are intellectually profitable to me.  A message board for Logical Positivists or Proudhonists might be stimulating at some level, but there would be too much to hack through at every turn.  It would feel like a big waste of time to me. Writing and reading in an Objectivist forum brings more success to me.  So, I am grateful to you and the others you work with for creating SOLO.
Lindsay Perigo wrote: "Changing the world" therefore means promoting Objectivism at every turn. SOLO is an attempt to do just that, in a manner consistent with Objectivism's content - i.e. with passion. This doesn't mean that everyone has to fight the battle globally as SOLO does (or ARI or TOC).
When I was in college in Charleston, South Carolina 1967-1969, there was a billboard: "Who is John Galt?" I think there was another that said, "A is A."  They were nice to see.  I am not sure that they changed the world.  In fact, I am pretty sure that they did not.  To be saleable, Objectivism must be as undeniable as all-weather windshield wiper blades.  It must be a product that people perceive a need for.  The works of Ayn Rand validated my life to me in terms that I was already willing to accept.  I had a perceived need and paid for the product.
 
On the other hand, I have worked with Born Again Christians.  Nominally, we have little in common.  Yet, I found an ally in the Christian at the next desk because he was "on fire."  He had passion for his work.  He had a place in the world and a validation for his existence.  Most of the people around us were mixed-premise folk, intelligent engineers most of them, but not out to "change the world."  They were generally content to "go along in order to get along."  He and I were both willing to beard the management lions in their dens and take the time to explain why our technical solutions to technical problems were worth the investment in time and money do to "the right thing."  We shared very different, but yet very similar, passions.  It would have been a monumental waste of my time to attempt to undermine his metaphysics. In fact, there would have been an inherent contradiction in that for me because it would mean denigrating his intellect and denying his right to make his own choices. 
When I was hanging out with leftwing radicals in 1969-1970, one of the flat statements from a Weatherman-SDSer was "You don't have the right to be wrong." That validates firing squads.  I see a serious impediment to "global success" for Objectivism in an inability to let other people be wrong. 
 
The fact remains that we do not empower our destroyers.  Somewhere in that broad latitude between tolerating other people (and benefiting from their association) and speaking out against their fallacious ideas, each of us must pick our own battles.  I might say that I draw my battlelines close to home, but actually, I prefer to avoid "battles" entirely.  There are two ways to do things in life: Power and Market.  For myself, if I am "fighting a battle" then I am probably misperceiving the problem. 
 
For a very specific, yet perhaps telling, example, I edit the quarterly newsletter for the Michigan State Numismatic Society.  It runs 30 pages or so.  The printer I go to did a bad job the last time and had a lot of technical excuses for the results.   I could find a different printer.  I could work with the current printer to help them solve some of these problems.   I could hand the owner a copy of The Fountainhead and say, "Read this."
 


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Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 7:54amSanction this postReply
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Eric J. Tower wrote: P.S. Michael....  The begining of your essay sounds rather determinist until you say that the mind is more complex than that...  Why the talk about the chemicals if you don't think its that simple?
In some ways, it is that simple.  I find evidence for doubting that every "featherless biped" is a "rational animal."  Even among those of us who are perhaps "equally rational" to some standard, the observable fact is that people "get along" with each other for non-rational reasons.  Someone can challenge all of your ideas and be confortable to be around (perhaps for that very reason), while another person with whom you apparently agree on almost every issue is a total turn-off for you.  If you are truly rational, you will be able to benefit from the ideas of the person whom you do not "like."  You might be able to amend your view of the comrade you dislike.  You will make the intellectual effort of identification.  That kind of rationality is rare.  It might not be teachable or learnable. 
 
Julian Jaynes posited the "creation of the bicameral mind."  Before civilization, our brains were more naturally symmetrical.  However, the slight asymmetry put words on the left and spaces on the right with the corpus collosum to mediate between.  At first, people did not know where the "words" were coming from. Among the many facts he marshalls -- and I do not endorse the entirety of his theory; it is merely "suggestive" to me -- is a contrast between the Iliad and the Odyssey.  In the first book, people speak in terms of "some god told me... which god told you..." In the other work, we meet a man who has learned to lie, who holds a separate self, a hidden agenda.  Jaynes sees that as a recent evolution -- and as an incomplete process.  Joan of Arc was not the last person to "change the world" because she "heard voices in her head." 
 
I once had a physics professor who was a perfect Neanderthal throwback.  His skull, his size, weight, stance, all of him just announced "Neanderthal" to me.  He had two master's degrees, one in physics, the other in mathematics.  To me, those people were people, highly intelligent, with brains larger than ours.  They "died out" -- which I deny, but let that go -- in part because they lived an individualized culture that could not withstand the onslaught of our Cro-Magnon ancestors whose tribal societies more effectively killed game and anything else that got in their way.    Collectivism may be genetic.  However, there is no such thing as a perfect collective.  Among social species, there are individuals and such individualism is actually necessary for the survival of the collective.
 
To me, hanging out with other individualists is profitable.  Changing collectivists into individualists does not seem possible.
 
Yet, of course, humans are complicated.  We are composed of  billions of genes.  Sequences on our chromosomes seem to be blank.  We all carry recessive genes.  The creation of America -- and especially of California -- brought millions of strongly individualist people together.  Even those who were nominally "collectivists" (Utopian socialists, religious communities, etc.) obviously came here because they were not happily collectivized back home.  Even the Negro slaves who were forced to come here were often the very people that some tribal leader had more than his fill of. 
 
Here in America, we get a very different view of the "nature of man."  You might be able to convince the guy next door that good fences make good neighbors (even while you share a six-pack watching the Super Bowl).  I don't think that standing on a corner in Paris handing out Atlas Shrugged will do you much good.
 
 


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linz,

Perhaps this is a dig at the reference in SOLO's Credo to changing the world.
Actualy I asked Michael in another thread to explain his position on changing the world.  I wanted to hear what he had to say on the matter because it had come up in passing.

Michael doesn't seem to be against changing the world he just seems to be questioning the methods used by some people to do so.  And also questioning wither it is in fact possible, because genetics, brain chemistry, etc.  ((Which I am not entirely sure is against us in changing the world)).  He says, rightly so, that we have to make the philosophy a sellable product something that people percieve as a need.  I can't disagree with that part.

But I think like you said, Linz, that the best method of going about this is each to his own and each his own way.  In a kind of diversity of methods attempt to get what works.  Which is not entirely against what michael says in his first article where he writes about splinter groups going off and some making it while others don't.

~E.


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