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Monday, August 6, 2007 - 9:52pmSanction this postReply
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Come on, John! When Rand said that she "discovered" the non-initiation of force principle, she wasn't referring to its philosophical underpinnings; she was referring to the principle itself. By your argument, Rand might as well claim to have "discovered" every tenet in her philosophy, including capitalism.

She very clearly did not discover the non-initiation of force principle; it was "discovered," if you want to use that term, by her libertarian predecessors. Rand didn't invent the philosophical wheel, for Christ's sake, even though Objectivists would like to think that she has. I would say that her most important contributions are her epistemology and her ethics -- certainly not her politics!

- Bill



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Tuesday, August 7, 2007 - 5:58pmSanction this postReply
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The Angel of the Garden of Thought

Bill is correct that Rand did not discover and did not claim to have discovered many of the principles in her system. It is unfortunate that this is one of the complaints that academic philosophers use against her - according to their standards they are correct to see her as suspect because she did not footnote and attribute every last idea she had in common with another school. Indeed, much of her metaphysics has similarities to the less deistic forms of Stoicism. Her indestructible robot argument would have been very familiar to the Epicureans. Her ethics has much, but by no means all in common with Spinoza. The only concepts of hers in ethics, metaphysics and epistemology which I have not come across in some form in other philosophers are those of the stolen concept, and the floating abstraction. Perhaps one can also add the primacy of existence, which is foreshadowed in Aristotle but not, I believe so clearly identified.

The wonder of Rand's thought is that it coheres. It self corrects. It is the only real and unapologetic attempt at systematization since Marxism, and the most noble since that of the Greeks. Rand's original theory of concept formation and her brilliant identification of the stolen concept stand around her system like a fence; keeping in the productive fruit of her and her spiritual predecessors, and expelling weeds from the garden of thought.

Ted Keer

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Tuesday, August 7, 2007 - 9:39pmSanction this postReply
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Ted,

What about her theory of concept formation? I think that's original. Wallace I. Matson, who was Chair of the Philosophy Department at U.C. Berkeley back in the early 70's when I was a student there said, after reading her ITOE pamphlet, that it was the best thing he'd seen written in philosophy in the last 50 years.

While such praise is perhaps underwhelming to an Objectivist, bear in mind that it comes from a well-recognized, academic, non-Objectivist philosopher, with no axe to grind, who's published his own text on A History of Philosophy (from the pre-Socratics to the 20th Century). Hospers wasn't the only well-recognized academic philosopher to be impressed by her contributions.

- Bill



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Tuesday, August 7, 2007 - 10:03pmSanction this postReply
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Bill, I did mention it, but in the second paragraph.

I wanted to make the metaphor of her conceptual theory (which is not just one, but a set of concepts) as serving as a wall around the garden which is her philosophy. Upon pre-submission editing I had removed the word original, I have put it back in.

I am glad to hear of Matson's praise. Bringing up Rand in college was usually a great way to halt a conversation. My advisor Brian McLaughlin at Rutgers was interested to hear my explanation of her ontology and epistemology (He's a fan of Daniel Dennett) but I don't believe he read ItOE. A professor who taught a 400-level class in ethics told me that her thought was more profound than he had realized after I explained her axiomatic method - he praised her as being dialectic - but again I don't think he read her.

Ted

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Wednesday, August 8, 2007 - 6:12amSanction this postReply
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In my own estimation, the following two ideas of Rand’s are original, true, and important.

 

Concepts

The first is Rand's idea that concepts of any particulars can be fashioned according to a principle of suspended particular measurement values along certain magnitude dimensions shared by particulars falling under those concepts. This conjecture is important as a distinct position in the theory of universals. I have written a little about the precursors of this idea in the history of philosophy in my first essay on Rand's theory; see §III “Measure and Matter” of “Capturing Concepts” in Objectivity (V1N1). The conjecture has implications for metaphysics; see my essay “Universals and Measurement” in Journal of Ayn Rand Studies (V5N2). I continue to develop the measurements-omitted theory of universals and to put it to work in problems current in metaphysics and in the philosophy of mathematics and science.

 

 

Values

The second is Rand's idea that value occurs only on account of the existence of life. Where there is value, there is life; and where there is life, there are values. I have not published work in this area, though you will find remarks of mine in this area in internet posts. I would like to say just a bit about the history of this idea right here. The first thinker who really got some grip on this idea was a philosopher who was probably as unknown to Rand as he is unknown to most philosophers today. His name is Marie-Jean Guyau. His theory of ethics was individualistic, against Utilitarianism, and purely secular. His book presenting this theory is A Sketch of Morality without Obligation or Sanction (1885). Nietzsche read this work in spring and early summer of 1885 and promptly changed his old tune as to the nonexistence of a secular, objective basis of his own ethic. There was Guyau—"Brave Guyau" as Nietzsche calls him—setting out a purely secular and individualistic and rational ethics based on a broad principle of biology. Guyau's ethics is not egoism. After 1885 Nietzsche began to insist uniformly that his own ethics was based on a principle of biology, although one different from Guyau's. It would be a good project to compare the different conceptions of life, at all its levels, held up by Guyau, Nietzsche, and Rand and the different moral theories they derive from these different conceptions of life.

 

Each of these three philosophers developed a theory of value in general, and human chosen values in particular, around various general features of living activity. All three knowingly relied on the science of biology in their own age. All were trying to be sensitive to that science in their theories of value and of what one should or should not do.

Both Rand and Guyau described their theories as the first true ethical theories based only on scientific facts. The casting of certain values as norms based on biology and psychology need not be nothing but a scientific casting in order to be a wholly rational casting. Which features of the biologically given and the psychologically given are stressed by a value theorist needs to be watched and remembered by the consumer.





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