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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 7:59amSanction this postReply
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Just a quick question:

In OPAR, Leonard Peikoff states that there are 7 virtues (rationality, productivity, pride, independence, justice, integrity, and honesty), and that rationality is the primary virtue.  However, in John Galt's speech in Atlas Shrugged, rationality, productivity, and pride are given as the primary virtues, with productivity appearing to be the most important.

Is it just a matter of emphasis, or a concrete difference between the two?


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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 8:18amSanction this postReply
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In OPAR, Leonard Peikoff states that there are 7 virtues (rationality, productivity, pride, independence, justice, integrity, and honesty), and that rationality is the primary virtue.  However, in John Galt's speech in Atlas Shrugged, rationality, productivity, and pride are given as the primary virtues, with productivity appearing to be the most important.
Where? All 7 Peikoff lists are in Galt's speech on p. 936 of AS.


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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:07pmSanction this postReply
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But it seems like rationality, pride, and productivity are emphasized in a way that the others are not.

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:28pmSanction this postReply
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From The Ayn Rand Society's "Ayn Rand and Objectivism: An Overview:"

"Rand’s concept of man as a heroic being – her vision of human beings as able to achieve great things, and of the universe as open to their efforts -- is a hallmark of  her thought, and certainly a significant part of her widespread appeal. Happiness she holds to be the emotional state that results from the achievement of objective values. Such values and the means to them can only be identified by reason, and Rand holds that they cannot be achieved without such virtues as independence, integrity, honesty, justice, productiveness, and pride."

 ...and...

"Rand identifies three cardinal values: Reason, Purpose, and Self-esteem, with the corresponding virtues of Rationality, Productiveness, and Pride. Reason is our means of survival. Rationality is the acceptance of reason as one’s only source of knowledge and guide to action. Rationality requires a person to do his own thinking (independence) and stay true to it in action (integrity). It requires honesty – the refusal to fake reality – because the unreal does not exist and can be of no value. It requires justice – the moral evaluation of others – because rational, productive people are good for us, while irrational parasites are worthless or dangerous.

"Survival requires an all-encompassing purposefulness, with all of one’s other purposes integrated to a central productive purpose. Productiveness is the application of reason to the creation of the products and services necessary for survival. To define and achieve rational purposes, a person must be certain of his competence and worth – he must achieve self-esteem. This requires the virtue of pride – a commitment to living up to the highest rational standards. Thus Rand calls pride “moral ambitiousness.” It is, in effect, productiveness applied to one’s character: “as man is a being of self-made wealth, so he is a being of self-made soul.”

 I recommend reading the entire article: "Ayn Rand and Objectivism: An Overview."






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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:55pmSanction this postReply
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Matthew, I structure and practice the Objectivist ethics in a particular hierarchical way outlined here.

Be sure to click the outline titles to expand the collapsed outline to peer more and more deeply into that hierarchy.

Note that my particular usage incorporates elements of the optional within the overall framework of the cardinal values and virtues and so may change from person to person.

You may also want to read my article "Experiencing Objectivism through Quicken" for more insights.


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Saturday, May 3, 2008 - 4:40amSanction this postReply
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For more thoughts on the relations between Rand’s cardinal virtues

and their corresponding cardinal values, see here.



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Saturday, May 3, 2008 - 11:18amSanction this postReply
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Matthew,

Here's a quote from Galt's speech which shows that there's no concrete difference (beyond emphasis) between it, and OPAR -- on this issue you raise.

Man has a single basic choice: to think or not, and that is the gauge of his virtue. Moral perfection is an unbreached rationality—not the degree of your intelligence, but the full and relentless use of your mind, not the extent of your knowledge, but the acceptance of reason as an absolute.
The "gauge" of our virtue, the very barometer of it, is whether we're using our minds (rationality is the primary virtue in Galt's speech, too).

Ed


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Monday, May 5, 2008 - 7:55amSanction this postReply
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Thanks for the replies everyone!  I think my question has been answered.

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