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Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 2:35pmSanction this postReply
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quote  Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare sieze the fire?
And what shoulder, & what art.
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?
When the stars threw down their spears,
And watered heaven with their tears,
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?
Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?



That the poem.. Any suggestions?

 


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Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 3:29pmSanction this postReply
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George Bush! George Bush! You are a fright
Oh how ye wield your Republican might,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful dimwittery?
By what malevolent urge was put ye brat
Beneath the brim of such an oversized hat?
And was it for truth, oil or just a lark
To bomb the shackles off Iraq?


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Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 3:32pmSanction this postReply
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Kayla,
The poem is fine for 8th grader's as is. Don't sell them short. Some will be bored, some will be thrilled. So be it.


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Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 11:02pmSanction this postReply
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Kayla,

Obviously the crux of this poem is in this line:
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?
I can imagine at least 5 exciting classes or more being taught on this line alone. The different life forces that are manifest is one. You can also take this all the way down to axiomatic concepts and a discussion of God and the supernatural, on up to a discussion of what exactly life is, and a discussion of good and evil, with life being the standard. The wealth of further examples drawn from life and personal experience - and asking for such examples from the students - makes for a great deal of interest.

This as a wonderful poem. 

I would start by paraphrasing the whole thing in modern English, just to make it intelligible (no, I won't do that for you - that's your job - and it could even be done in class out loud, line by line, as a discussion). Then I would elaborate on the context of fear in the first four lines, reading them dramatically, as an emotional hook. After a whole lot of in-depth discussion, I would go back to that dramatic reading, doing it again, pointing out how that meaning and even the fear has changed by a broader understanding - and how it finally leads to a profound feeling of wonder at the whole shebang of being alive and existing as the poem progresses.

You could also discuss a little about the poetic use of rhythm and rhyme to create a sort of hypnotic effect - even equating it to the pulsing of the universe and the beating of hearts - in both tigers and lambs - as a further element Blake used to evoke emotions in readers - to get them to both feel and know on a different level what he was talking about.

Did that help any?

Michael

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Monday, June 13, 2005 - 12:26pmSanction this postReply
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Michael, your suggestions on how to teach "The Tyger" are excellent! They display great teaching instincts. Have you ever taught?

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Monday, June 13, 2005 - 12:54pmSanction this postReply
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Philip,

Thank you. I have taught music in music festivals in Brazil. Never poetry. I have done a lot of public presentations also, and handling a crowd is probably not so different to teaching. I also am a professional songwriter (alas, not active for a while) and aspiring bard (mostly in Portuguese for the present - but starting to fix that).

Michael


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Monday, July 11, 2005 - 9:00amSanction this postReply
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It is said that Blake was asked what he meant by Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
  and he replied, Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night.


The poem is fine the way it is.  I agree that Michael Kelly has some good suggestions for any discussion of any poem.  Personally, I am not a poetry kind of guy.  I got by in college honors English by taking poems apart as Kelly shows, writing all about the pieces and never "getting" the message.  Oh, one other trick.  Is it not true that lines that rhyme are supposed to make sense when read together as a couplet, even if they are 12 lines apart?

My wife just finished watching the 1999 remake of The Mummy.  I quit watching it less than half way through.  When it was over, I congratulated her on her endurance because the movie consisted only of monsters going "ROAR!!!" and people screaming "Aaaaaa!!" and I mention that here because that's what poetry is like for me.  People who can't keep their emotions in check just bubble over with feelings that every knows cannot be described with words, so why bother.

Tyger, Tyger burning bright
Do you know your left from right?
Had the Almighty hand or eye
Would neither echo with blasphemy.
Being a cat in a jungle you probably
never went scuba diving or airplane fly
ing and while we are at it
Is there a club big enough to crush your skull
Cause if there was, I'd wear your coat
It is better than the skin of a dead goat.
When I look at an animal in the wilds,
I always think of steel mills and railroads
But that's because I figure it is just as easy
to say what you mean as to hide it in scans
and rhymes the way a tiger hides in the tall grass.
The end.






 




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Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:10pmSanction this postReply
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As much as I like doing someones homework for them...I am going to resist mightily this time :)

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Monday, July 11, 2005 - 7:20pmSanction this postReply
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Jeez, Michael M.

Hold some of it back.

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