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Thursday, April 1 - 4:26pmSanction this postReply
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I love it. :)



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Friday, April 2 - 7:41amSanction this postReply
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Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner

Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one man. How’s that again? I missed something.

There was once a democracy composed of three hundred wolves and nine hundred squirrels. When the zoning ordinances and city planning regulations were completed, the wolves were required to live in trees and eat nuts.

from the Notebooks of Lazarus Long, R. Heinlein

As to the poem - even if it was possible to make it into law, and that is a big if - it's not practical in my opinion. I always argued that such a rule will lead to abuse, fraud and invasion of privacy, not mentioning powerful class tensions. Just imagine difficulties with count and/or re-count. Computers are only as good as people who program them. Unless manual re-count is possible the suspicion will always be there.

Much more simpler rule would be to forbid all elected officials and government employees to vote. They have a clear conflict of interest. IMHO


P.S. Oh, and thank you, Teresa :)




(Edited by Maria Feht on 4/02, 9:36am)




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Friday, April 2 - 10:40amSanction this postReply
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The precursor to Democracy in our society was political power by birthright (often invoking a divine origin to this right). This was also intellectually indefensible.

Popular elections solved the problem of transferring political power peacefully among competing groups and individuals. But along with that came the notion of majoritarianism.

A system based on wealth would be interesting, but would probably result in massive class warfare.



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Friday, April 2 - 4:51pmSanction this postReply
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Not a system based on wealth, but on taxes paid.



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Saturday, April 3 - 9:21amSanction this postReply
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Not a system based on wealth, but on taxes paid.

Don't those who make the most money pay the most in taxes?




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Saturday, April 3 - 9:23amSanction this postReply
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...



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Saturday, April 3 - 9:30pmSanction this postReply
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If that were true, Pete, wouldn't it imply that the rich people were not then manipulating the system to their unfair benefit?



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Monday, April 5 - 4:22pmSanction this postReply
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I think a point to be made is to be sure that no one person, or group of persons, pays a disproportionate share of taxes, lest they be represented disproportionately in an election.



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Monday, April 5 - 5:43pmSanction this postReply
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Mr. Clifton,

I think we have a more complex problem. No one is being represented on the basis of paying taxes (disproportionate or otherwise). Representation today is either an ideological allegiance (progressives on the left and conservatives on the right), a small scattering of well-meaning moderates who flounder about in an absence of clear principles, and all the rest are bought and paid for by special interests. That is the same as NOT representing anyone.

Not so strangely, it is the people who are paying the most who are the least represented (the most abused with regulation and confiscation). It is those who pay the least that are the most represented in today's world (AIG, welfare bums, agro-business, dictators receiving foreign aid, etc.)

And, in my thinking, representation is really only a checks and balances kind of thing to slow down any trend towards statism since government derives its moral basis from adhering to laws drawn strictly from individual rights - and not from the fact that the leaders were elected.



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