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Post 100

Friday, April 8, 2011 - 7:56amSanction this postReply
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Steve:

Why do you object to the concept of knowledge being hierarchical? Or am I misunderstanding you?

I don't object to that in the least. You are misunderstanding my point. I will trim it down a bit:

If a graduate degree is required to understand the foundation of our body of laws, then few in the electorate are actually going to understand the foundation of our body of laws, and will politically accept anything, even under a supposed constitution of liberty.

It is why, I think, a free nation desperately needs a simple enough axiom at the base of all of that, a principle that is readily grasped and easily understood and easily applied as a litmus to public issues, the most important of which is, "Is this issue a suitable issue for public consideration?"

The closest concepts to that in America used to be the words "Freedom...Liberty."

Recognizing that, totalitarian leaning adversaries directly attacked those foundational concepts in America. A nation no longer able to readily consensus define, and thus apply, the word 'freedom' is no longer able to consensus defend it. Its use as the ready (and honest) shortcut to the graduate degree


e.g., Metaphysics -> Epistemology -> Ethics -> Political Philosophy -> Philosophy of law -> Legal theory -> The body of laws.

has been broadly defeated(IMO.)


I don't object at all to e.g., Metaphysics -> Epistemology -> Ethics -> Political Philosophy -> Philosophy of law -> Legal theory -> The body of laws.

But, spend 15 minutes at any rest stop on I95, and then tell me you think America is broadly up to connecting those dots, and is not in need of a short cut, easily grasped, an honest axiom that lets them make judgements in our political context about those body of laws.

regards,
Fred


(Edited by Fred Bartlett on 4/08, 8:26am)


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Friday, April 8, 2011 - 11:52amSanction this postReply
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Fred,

These are two separate things - the formal study of the concepts to get them right, and the short-hand rhetoric and metaphors that popularize and energize a position.

Snappy sound-bytes and clever slogans have to come after the decision has been made as to which is proper foundation.
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You said, "Metaphysics -> Epistemology -> Ethics -> Political Philosophy -> Philosophy of law -> Legal theory -> The body of laws...has been broadly defeated(IMO.)"

I'd say that Objectivism, with its defense of capitalism as a moral system is new and the explicit connection of the areas from metaphysics to the law is also quite new. And given what we are seeing in the rise of the people in the Tea Party movement tells us that it isn't defeated, but is just getting started.

There is a photo I saw of an older gentleman at a Tea Party rally with a hand-lettered sign that said, "Get your hand out of my pocket. I'll stimulate myself, thank you."
He was having no problems with a snappy, metaphorical short-hand way to connect the moral nature of the relationship between government, economics and personal freedom :-)


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