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Monday, November 24, 2008 - 11:57amSanction this postReply
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"So what did they do about it?"

I'm not a historian so I don't actually know that there were covered wagons heading west at that particular point, but if they did they would have probably gone south 70 miles through some pretty awful terrain until the river gorge flattens in the area between Santa Fe and Los Alamos at about 5500 ft. from 6400 ft. at the gorge. The rim of the gorge is at about 7,000 ft. It drops another 500 ft. in the 70 miles more to the south to Albuquerque.


The Rio Grande between Santa Fe and Los Alamos is really just a creek except in the spring when there's river rafting further up.)

Check out Google Earth if you're inclined.

Sam


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Monday, November 24, 2008 - 12:49pmSanction this postReply
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I read that the Yuma Indians showed early pioneers (or maybe mountain men or trappers) that they could cross the Colorado at its confluence with the Gila river - but that makes no sense since the Gila River I know is on the wrong side of the continental divide - it drains into the Sea of Cortez, whereas the Rio Grande drains into the Gulf of Mexico.

The Sante Fe trail took settlers from Kansas City to the Cimmarron Trail which led to the old conquistedore trail coming north out of Mexico. Part of that trail is the Journada del Muerto (Journey or day of the dead man) - the sweet name of the trail that took travelers to a Rio Grande crossing at Ft. Seldon, NM. There may have been crossings that weren't that far south but once across the river they needed a pass for the mountains.

It wasn't just the massive canyons like the Rio Grande Gorge, but nearly every river presented major crossing problems. And the moutain chains presented barriers that required a pass to get through. If you look at maps of the old trails, they move from marked crossings to marked crossings. There are variations in the trails that have to do with seasons. During dry seasons the trail was also from watering hole to watering hole - in wet seasons, some crossing were too dangerous, in cold seasons, they had to use lower mountain passes. Word of mouth information on what trail to use, how to recognize the landmarks and what to expect, was passed back by returning guides and trappers. When I've done longer sailing trips, the same kind of word of mouth is used - those of us in a port along the trade wind route would talk to those who had made the trip before about what to expect and the best route to take.






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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 3:46pmSanction this postReply
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The gorge must have put a strain on some pioneer marriages.  The scene is not hard to imagine.

"We could have stopped and asked the Yumas for directions, but NO.  You know the territory.  You're guided by manifest destiny.  No asking directions for 54-40-Or-Fight."

"Go skin a buffalo, bitch."


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Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:58pmSanction this postReply
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Peter:

I can hear the voices in my head! :-)

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