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Monday, September 7, 2009 - 8:12amSanction this postReply
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Wow.

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Monday, September 7, 2009 - 10:12amSanction this postReply
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Thanks, Luke.

This is really, really, really, good information.

Ed


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Monday, September 7, 2009 - 10:19amSanction this postReply
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This is what a president of the United States should show to students. And the ensuing discussion should include pointing out that it doesn't have to have to do with the former Soviet Union, or even Marxist teachings - it can be nothing more than the wrong-headed, fuzzy, egalitarian or altruistic or collectivists nonsense being floated out as if it were truth - decade after decade. I'd say the KGB's contribution was minute - perhaps so tiny as to not be measurable. We did it to ourselves.

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Monday, September 7, 2009 - 11:14amSanction this postReply
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Yuri Bezmenov in this video, speaking of the buyer's remorse that communists end up getting (good and hard) said:
Unlike in [the] present United States, there will be no place for dissent in [the] future, Marxist-Leninist America. Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy-rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches.
This reminds me of Sozhenitsyn's experience. The novelist, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, criticized Stalin once -- and was sent to jail for it, and expelled from the Soviet Writers Union! He sent them a critical letter in 1969 which rings with Bezmenov's tone of communists eventually eating their own. The really good parts:
Your clumsy articles fall apart; your vacant minds stir feebly -- but you have no arguments. You have only your voting and your administration. ...

Were we not promised 50 years ago that never again would there be any secret diplomacy, secret talks, secret and incomprehensible appointments and transfers, that the masses would be informed of all matters and discuss them openly?

"The enemy will overhear" -- that is your excuse. The eternal, omnipresent "enemies" are a convenient justification for your functions and your very existence. As if there were no enemies when you promised immediate openness. But what would you do without "enemies"? You could not live without "enemies"; hatred, a hatred no better than racial hatred, has become your sterile atmosphere. ...

Should the antarctic ice melt tomorrow, we would all become a sea of drowning humanity, and into whose heads would you then be drilling your concepts of "class struggle"? ...

It is high time to remember that we belong first and foremost to humanity. And that man has distinguished himself from the animal world by THOUGHT and SPEECH. And these, naturally, should be FREE. If they are put in chains, we shall return to the state of animals.
Ed

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[book] A Documentary History of Human Rights. (2003), Carrol & Graf. [publisher]., Edited by Jon E. Lewis., ISBN: 0-7867-1268-6. Amazon link.


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Monday, September 7, 2009 - 12:50pmSanction this postReply
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That's great Ed! If you want to have fun, look at how easy it would be to change the section of his letter that speaks of "enemies" to "crisis" and replace "class struggle" with "social justice" - then a few tweaks here and there and it will be up to date and fit our country.

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Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 6:32pmSanction this postReply
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Personally, I don’t take these people seriously; they pretend to be so smart and know-it-all but could not predict the approaching collapse of the Soviet Union. I don’t believe America would be following a Russian scenario in the foreseeable future.

In Russia, the majority of population were slaves. Slavery was abolished in 1861 but the servile mentality remained. That’s why it was relatively (compared to America) easy to replace an old boss with a new one. Still, the Soviet power had to be brutally enforced, and millions died before it stabilized in some form. And here we come to the question: no matter how much brainwashing Americans get, where is a sizable chunk of population, ready to guard concentration camps, shoot people in a head, enjoy torture, and so on? Americans are heavily armed, here this kind of an occupation would also be associated with much more risk than anywhere else. While Russians and Germans had no problem finding enforcers, the Italian experiment with fascism hasn't been comparable to Russian or German “achievements.” Nations do differ (even if some former KGB types like to see it otherwise). The British may be very socialist but they have no Gulag yet.

Anybody who would try to repeat a Russian experiment in the US would find out relatively soon that enforcing socialism in the US is impossible. Americans can only do it to themselves by themselves ;-). Unfortunately, even an unsuccessful experiment can bring a lot of trouble.

On the other hand, America is changing, and will continue to change from a frontier country to a more mature state where the precious balance and social contracts are treasured far above individual freedoms and desires.

From the biological point of view, it very easy to see: when life is very hard, the amount of parasites living off the working host can only be very limited. Otherwise, both hosts and parasites would perish. The richer the nation becomes, the more people living off the working minority it is able to support; and parasites are getting more and more influence in forming the public opinion. Two biological fundamentals are in play: filling every possible ecological niche, and preservation of energy. If it is easier to pay taxes than to fight them, paying taxes is what the majority of people choose to do. America is rich enough to afford even more bureaucracy than we have now. More conflicts are coming; but just as all the rocks on the sea shore gradually become pebble, no matter what created them, a powerful volcanic eruption or a slow accumulation of sediment, any society is going to mature in time into some modicum of an illusionary stability. Technological advances only help this process.

One cannot preserve pioneering spirit in a bottle and use it as needed. Something that we are acutely missing now is a new frontier. Our planet has become too small; there is no place to escape anymore. Old ways that allowed people to feel empowered -- wars, expansion, and colonization -- are outdated, and don’t inspire any more. Also, given the modern technology, they could be self-destructive. The only place where we find new challenges and dangers, where accomplishments will have to be so enormous that there will be a real need for the great art to crown such achievements, is the Space. “Make no little plans…” – when schoolchildren will be taken to Moon excursions, to see the Earth and to take a ride in a moon-buggy (just as the one astronauts used), not only it will be a lot of fun but it will open their horizons beyond imagination. On the other hand, an attempt to resolve all our problems on Earth would be similar to a situation where a young man, instead of going out and building a new life for himself, stays home, sincerely trying to untangle centuries of family feuds. Was it ever possible?

While even in the darkest times there always have been some talented artists who simply could not do otherwise, and people who admired them, the wave of public demand for the great art always comes at times of victory, expansion, and free trade, be it Ancient Greece, Renaissance Italy or Victorian England.

In times of self-doubt, confusion and general disillusionment the great art offends the general public, for it reminds people of hopes and ideas they don’t trust anymore and prefer to forget. That’s what happened in the 20th century: destruction of the art by the elitist mafia was possible because of the general public apathy. However, it wasn't the only time when art subjects were intentionally ugly. Covered by the dust of history, old ugly things tend not to look as aggressive as the modern art scene, where the fight is still going on and the wounds are still fresh, but during their own time those old ugly things were just as bad.

I consider Frederick Hart the most talented sculptor of 20th century (at least the second half of it). It is highly symbolic that almost all Hart’s sculptures have their eyes closed in some dreamy state, floating in the clouds as if they don’t want to see, as if nothing outside is worth looking at, finding the only source of inspiration and strength inside. Depending on which path we choose, they might finally wake up, become creators themselves, and, just like Michelangelo’s David, step firmly on a ground and look straight into the world’s eyes.

And finishing with what I started – that video interview with a former KGB agent:
despite many people’s wishes to see US to be as miserable as they are, America is still different, it still does things nobody else can do. On October 4th, 2004 SpaceShipOne was the first private vehicle to make it in to space and after a second successful flight won the Ansari X-Prize.

Sorry for mixing KGB, space and modern art ;-). I took this text from my e-mail message to Alexandra York, which was mostly about art.

Recommended book “The Case for Mars” by Robert Zubrin
Also search for SpaceShipOne on YouTube – first space flight with no government financing.


(Edited by Maria Feht on 2/11, 8:09pm)


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Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 6:41pmSanction this postReply
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"Something that we are acutely missing now is a new frontier."

Yes. And notice that Obama's proposed budget zeros out manned space missions.

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Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 8:51pmSanction this postReply
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I won't worry about NASA financing (unless we want to go round and round the Earth for few more decades). Self-serving bureaucracy unable to do anything new.

What this administration does to private business concerns me much more.

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Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 9:18pmSanction this postReply
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My point is that Obama recognizes, probably subconsciously, that space exploration is a threat, and so has cut what he can, not that the $8b cut will matter in the long run.

But there is also the question of the military value of space. That is not about to go away ever, but Obama will gladly cede space superiority. When the Chinese stake their claim to the moon, who will stand up for the rights of American investors?

Welcome to the forum, Maria.

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Friday, February 12, 2010 - 11:06amSanction this postReply
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Closing the New Frontier


By Charles Krauthammer, February 12, 2010

WASHINGTON -- "We have an agreement until 2012 that Russia will be responsible for this," says Anatoly Perminov, head of the Russian space agency, about ferrying astronauts from other countries into low-Earth orbit. "But after that? Excuse me, but the prices should be absolutely different then!"

The Russians may be new at capitalism but they know how it works. When you have a monopoly, you charge monopoly prices. Within months, Russia will have a monopoly on rides into space.

By the end of this year, there will be no shuttle, no U.S. manned space program, no way for us to get into space. We're not talking about Mars or the moon here. We're talking about low-Earth orbit, which the U.S. has dominated for nearly half a century and from which it is now retiring with nary a whimper.

Our absence from low-Earth orbit was meant to last a few years, the interval between the retirement of the fatally fragile space shuttle and its replacement with the Constellation program (Ares booster, Orion capsule, Altair lunar lander) to take astronauts more cheaply and safely back to space.

But the Obama 2011 budget kills Constellation. Instead, we shall have nothing. For the first time since John Glenn flew in 1962, the U.S. will have no access of its own for humans into space -- and no prospect of getting there in the foreseeable future.

Of course, the administration presents the abdication as a great leap forward: Launching humans will now be turned over to the private sector, while NASA's efforts will be directed toward landing on Mars.

This is nonsense. It would be swell for private companies to take over launching astronauts. But they cannot do it. It's too expensive. It's too experimental. And the safety standards for actually getting people up and down reliably are just unreachably high.

Sure, decades from now there will be a robust private space-travel industry. But that is a long time. In the interim, space will be owned by Russia and then China. The president waxes seriously nationalist at the thought of China or India surpassing us in speculative "clean energy." Yet he is quite prepared to gratuitously give up our spectacular lead in human space exploration.

read the rest

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Friday, February 12, 2010 - 1:47pmSanction this postReply
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Friday, February 12, 2010 - 7:11pmSanction this postReply
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All true, about China, Russia, military importance … But the space program was killed before Obama. He does not really do anything that was not already done before him. … 1962, or let’s say 1972 – that’s 38 years ago …

How much talent NASA absorbed over decades and how much did it actually produce? The shock these talented people feel now as painful as it is, might finally open their eyes and push them elsewhere. There are few space rocket companies in TX - with money, but talent-short.

American politics (NASA included) were carefully crafted to slowly introduce socialism and build bigger government, stopping any initiative that could play into hands of individual freedoms.

Obama's forceful style more suitable for Third World Country destroys this cleverly built machine which worked extremely well with American people.

In fact, he exposes the government and their real intentions, and in a long run might be good for America.

As I said, one thing really bothers me – the money. They spend and print so much of it – it’s hard to predict how bad the resulting problems are going to be.


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Friday, February 12, 2010 - 7:30pmSanction this postReply
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What worries me about Obama is not his role as domestic budgeteer but the fact that he is also our Commander in Chief. I don't think he has any grasp of or interest in military matters. How does the public know whether he is doing enough or anything to protect our ports from smuggled bombs, our satellites from space-based attack, the internet from subversion, or the mainland from EMP attack? And besides the question of whether he finds these threats real is the question of whether he finds the threat of attack worrying. After all, the idea that one should not waste a crisis implies that one might welcome crises.

The safety of British free trade depended for two centuries upon British dominance of the seas. The same is true, and moreso, for the US and dominance in space.

Of course I oppose the stimulus. But what if Obama had spent one fifth of the stimulus on hardening our electric grid, building nuclear plants, and contracting out space-related jobs to the private sector? I am nowhere near an expert on this subject, but I imagine money wasted there would have been better than money wasted on ACORN.

As I said, I am not at all versed in the necessary issues to say anything coherent other than that domination of space (and the internet) is as important for the US now as domination of the waves was for Britain, and that military space interests are legitimate national interests.

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Friday, February 12, 2010 - 8:36pmSanction this postReply
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At this point why doesn't everyone have at least one particular area where Obama scares the hell out of them? Commander in Chief during terror threats and multiple wars when it really isn't clear that he is fully on our side, nationalizing industries, nanny state, destruction of the U.S. as a nation of laws, rapid erosion of separation of powers and constitutionality, brainwashing the young, transformation of our country into something unrecognizable (I know, that's Beck's description - but it so fits!), destruction of the currency, collapse of the financial system, shifting from a minority who are either govt. employees or on entitlements to a majority. And there are still 46% who would vote for him, no matter who he was running against (42% who wouldn't)!!!!! I guess we are already a nation of idiots. For each time I see the tea party as a ray of hope, I turn around and easily imagine them become a bunch of squabbling fools unable to agree on smaller issues and fragmenting into splinters too small to do anything make foolish sound bites.

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Friday, February 12, 2010 - 8:45pmSanction this postReply
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Steve, I suggest you read the manifesto The Coming Insurrection and consider whether it would make Obama uncomfortable.


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Friday, February 12, 2010 - 9:07pmSanction this postReply
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I skimmed through it. And I can see him thinking that he could co-opt it, channel it into the proper paths with his silver tongue and their shared hatred of capitalism. I suspect he'd evade any feelings of discomfort with their hatred of any kind of structure. Maybe I'm being too harsh? Nah. His agenda is a deeply held vision of social justice and he hasn't shared that yet. We have to intuit its outline from his appointees. Would Van Jones be uncomfortable? Nope.

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Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 6:03pmSanction this postReply
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America certainly is "a nation of idiots", just like any other nation, BUT slightly less so.

There is no Chinese dominance in space yet, it might take quite a while for them to achieve it even IF they can. To build their skyscrapers they hire American architects ...

Russians are using half-century old technology, and I heard they have serious problems replacing retiring engineers. Their country is in ruins. No money to maintain or replace old infrastructure. And no guts to fill Gulag again for cheap labor.

The reason I worry more about economic standing of America than about Obama is simple.

There will be trouble! Obama, or no Obama! After so many years of stupid policies, kissing terrorists, enriching Arabs, searching grandmothers in airports ... Did Obama started all that? ... there will be trouble. Guaranteed! In which form: huge terrorist attack, war, or city riots - who knows.

And in case of trouble we need strong technologically advanced companies to fight it.

If American people really want it, all of the new laws and regulations are easy enough to change, but the money wasted is the money wasted. So the question remains: how bad is current spending and money printing? How long it will take to fix it?



PS Piece of good news: http://tvnz.co.nz/technology-news/flying-laser-zaps-missile-3363801



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Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 6:36pmSanction this postReply
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I'm not so sure we'll see much trouble. I'm having a hard time following a line from enriching Arabs (enriching them how, exactly?) and searching grandmothers in airports leading to war. Terrorists don't need any excuses to attack us.  Riots are caused by perceived injustices and/or real or perceived shortages.

I'm actually very optimistic about America's future. Never in my life has there been so much open discussion involving fundamental principles. Exposing bad ideas, like that little underground publication, is always a good thing.

(Edited by Teresa Summerlee Isanhart on 2/13, 6:37pm)


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Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 6:43pmSanction this postReply
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I agree - the information flow is greater now than ever has been, and secrecy is harder to achieve than before... while there is indeed a sword that could swing, it cuts both ways - so yes, see optimism too...

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>>>I'm having a hard time following a line from enriching Arabs (enriching them how, exactly?) <<<


Forbidding to drill in America, forbidding to built nuclear plants, stopping any research that would lead to real energy alternatives (the ones that will actually work). We could keep most of the money we pay for gas here at home if not for stupid policies.

>>>and searching grandmothers in airports leading to war.<<<

Just another example of stupidity. If they search American grandmothers, instead of listed terrorists, sooner or later we will be in big trouble.

>>>Terrorists don't need any excuses to attack us<<<

Of course not, but if we keep punishing people who say a word against terrorists instead of terrorists (Europeans are especially good at it) ... sooner or later we will be in big trouble ... If we continue to vote in people who specifically express their hatred toward America, inevitably we will be in a big trouble.


>>>Riots are caused by perceived injustices and/or real or perceived shortages<<<

Just read an American press, everybody is poor and starving in America. Except for those few - Tea Party monsters ;-).

In fact, I am optimistic too. I think American people are more capable to deal with any problems coming their way than any other nation. But it would be much better if we stop creating these problems.
(Edited by Maria Feht on 2/13, 7:39pm)


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