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Post 40

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 8:46amSanction this postReply
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Hong, you make an excellent point. Orion's last, say, 10 posts do nothing to engage his critic's position. And yeah, they are mean spirited. So he throws out a plan for genocide and then 'supports' it with insults all-round!

And they 'sacked' ELi Sacks 'cause he wouldn't capitalize? In the grand scheme of things, which is the greater crime?

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 9:53amSanction this postReply
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It only shows the power of clout. Had someone who hadn't been on this site for a million years come up with any of this, he would've been out of here last week. Incidentally, this also provides evidence against conspiracy #2 that we are all working for Madame Ring: If this is the case, why haven't you been banned yet? Hell, why hasn't she herself advocated banning you? It's a lot easier to take over SOLO if you get rid of the dissenters, and surely that would mean a whistleblower. Maybe, just maybe, the grand muslim conspiracy has taken to recruiting non muslims as fronts, and Jeanine is one of them: she reports to Al Qaeda on a daily basis!

If Orion can truly prove that "they are all in on it" in some manner of grand conspiracy theory, then I'll agree that orion has a good idea. Until Orion has anything to support this other than conspiracy theories backed up by more conspiracies, however, this is all absurd.

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 10:12amSanction this postReply
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So he throws out a plan for genocide and then 'supports' it with insults all-round!
Scott,  you do have a way with words that go right to the bottom of things!  The situation with Orion can not be assessed any better.


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:12amSanction this postReply
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"you do have a way with words that go right to the bottom of things!"

Thank you, Hong! I can think of no more flattering compliment!

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:53amSanction this postReply
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(Edited by Orion Reasoner on 11/11, 3:58pm)


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:04pmSanction this postReply
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(Edited by Orion Reasoner on 11/11, 3:58pm)


Post 46

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:21pmSanction this postReply
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"Until you've had someone you've trusted so much, turn around and "inexplicably" slit your throat and then "suddenly" turn into a completely different person while you lay there bleeding, confused, and anguished, while they smirk and walk away, you will never know that such people exist..."

Is that how you learned that such people exist?

OF COURSE people like this exist. OF COURSE there are spies. When we catch them, give them no quarter.

But mass extermination?

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:51pmSanction this postReply
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(Edited by Orion Reasoner on 11/11, 4:00pm)


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:03pmSanction this postReply
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Okay Orion, some of them scare you, so its okay to kill them all?!?!?!  Does this mean if a white Christians killed a bunch of innocents that all White Christians should be exterminated because you can't be sure they are really not planning to kill you?

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:06pmSanction this postReply
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Apparently 9-11 wasn't a severe or personal enough trauma for you folks.

You have called me naive, Orion, but kindly remember, my town was the one attacked by the terrorists.  I was one of the ones having to clear out of Grand Central on occasion due to a false alarm, and having to learn a new way of living in New York, NY, USA.  It was my neighbors who were not returning.   Despite all of that, I still do not and would not advocate the removal of every last Muslim on the planet.  To do so would be based upon a purely emotional reaction, and would have to be achieved by abandoning the entire concept of individual rights -- and reason. 


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:45pmSanction this postReply
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(Edited by Orion Reasoner on 11/11, 4:01pm)


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:49pmSanction this postReply
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"certain members of a group"

"Is it my fault

even when I might err in going after all members of a group .

Yeah I've read it all. You have reason to be concerned and questioning. You have no reason for mass killing though.

(Edited by Ethan Dawe on 11/11, 1:50pm)


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:55pmSanction this postReply
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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:57pmSanction this postReply
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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:00pmSanction this postReply
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"Is it my fault that I behave in a conscientious and open manner throughout, even when I might err in going after all members of a group that all act just as "earnestly" as the ones who Trojan Horsed me?"

Dude, don't ax me questions if you dont want me to answer them.

Yes, it is YOUR FAULT if you generalize and seek to hold complete strangers accountable for something they may or may not have had ANYTHING to do with.

Those who actually deceive you have initiated force against you. You may retaliate. Those who you have evidence ever initiated force against you, you may not use force against.

If you accept suspicion, paranoia, and gut feelings as sufficient to end another human being's life, then chickity chiz-ek ya premises, y'all.

Ethan is not a monkey. Jennifer the Russian is ~not~ naive. Hong is not possessed of an adamantine cranium. And you gots to take it down a notch so we can all play together well. This way, we can actually benefit one another with our ideas, rather than throwing insults around. Ya feel me?

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:05pmSanction this postReply
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(Edited by Orion Reasoner on 11/11, 4:01pm)


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:06pmSanction this postReply
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You have no reason for mass killing though.
Well, just pretend I'm a Muslim.  You won't object to my "mass killing" then...

Orion, please, listen to yourself.


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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:08pmSanction this postReply
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Russian?

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:10pmSanction this postReply
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Orion, are you suggesting that Linz, Irfan, and Mr. Pappas agree with the idea that all Muslims should be exterminated?

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Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:16pmSanction this postReply
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You have no reason for mass killing though.

Well, just pretend I'm a Muslim.  You won't object to my "mass killing" then...


Orion, please, listen to yourself.

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Yes, and your point is???
 
Lemme ask you something:  Do you ever do anything other than just post vague, hystrionic one-liners? 

You know, I just can't seem to insult you enough.  Your mentally lazy reliance on politically-correct, pre-canned comments of melodramatic rambling is just staggering.   There never seems an end to these open-ended statements of yours that go nowhere, such as:

"Orion, please, listen to yourself".

It's bathos drama, utterly devoid of a point... it's actually as if you somehow delusionally believe that just saying an empty and meaningless phrase like that will somehow MYSTICALLY "make" a point, right out of thin air.

Tell you what:  Do us all -- and yourself -- a huge favor:  This is an OBJECTIVIST forum.  Go back and actually READ SOMETHING... ANYTHING... by AYN GODDAMN RAND, and then come back here and post. 

I think you'll find that you actually have a newfound capacity to be rational and communicative, then.  And the tingling you feel behind and above your eyes, will be the birth cries of your brain's own frontal lobes finally awakening, after lo', these too, too many years.

(Edited by Orion Reasoner on 11/11, 2:18pm)


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