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Post 20

Friday, February 4, 2005 - 1:11pmSanction this postReply
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Thank you. Even on the basis of all that, it seems Iran would have been far better, by my principles.

But there are so many positives about the Iraq invasion that I have to support it in these times.




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Friday, February 4, 2005 - 3:27pmSanction this postReply
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Patience, Rodney. Iran is now nearly surrounded.




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Post 22

Saturday, February 5, 2005 - 5:10amSanction this postReply
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Saudi Arabia is a more complicated mess. Sure, they are a funding source for Wahhabism globally; but they are also a huge source of our oil, and the royal family is also battling al Qaeda. This harmony of major interests, and the instability of the regime, means they are more tractable to U. S. pressure. Better to push the Sauds in our direction, then, rather than push them out of power and perhaps hand it over to even more radical Islamicists. 

I’m bothered by this analysis. Since when do we prostitute ourselves and sanction our savage enemy? Since when do O'ists support such cowardly appeasement? Saudi Arabia, the center of Islam, has constructed a worldwide network of educational institutions that pump hate into the minds of the faithful turning people into bombs. It is pure cowardness not to confront Saudi Arabia, to continue to sanction this ideology, and to lie to the American people.

 

By the way, Saudi Arabia doesn’t sell us oil – they sell oil into the market. And they do it to keep from starving.




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Saturday, February 5, 2005 - 5:21pmSanction this postReply
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I have a question for Robert Bidinotto (or anyone else who cares to take it up): What about some sort of very strong pro-freedom attack on Iran, but not an invasion? 

What about a sudden devastating assault which aims to harm their evil tyrannical leadership alone? Only the worst of Iran's slave-masters could be targeted by cruise missiles, smart bombs, and perhaps a small number of special operations forces. This low-cost, low-risk, low-collateral-damage tactic might be especially effective if America could find a time when many high-ranking mullahs and government officials were in just one place. The most oppressive of the security forces, secret police stations, torture prisons, munitions factories, etc. could also be specially bombed, along with the worst of their propaganda t'v' and radio stations, and their most radical religious colleges, mosques, and so forth.

The US could try to stage a lightning strike of overwhelming power and precision, and then pointedly NOT invade. We could publicize this non-invasion right after via blanket radio, t'v', internet, leaflet, etc. announcements. 

This way their natural nationalism and anti-Americanism might be severely vitiated, and any resultant revolution would be their own. It would be home grown, grass roots based, probably bloody, and something they could all be very proud of and patriotic about latter -- assuming a revolution was actually sparked by the military strikes.

Even if all else failed, I tend to favor this type of foreign policy maneuver because it would serve as a warning to world leaders: In the future, if they promote tyranny and terrorism too vigorously, they and their cronies might eventually be personally targeted.  




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Sunday, February 6, 2005 - 10:07pmSanction this postReply
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I agree with Linz on this one.
Preemptive retaliatory theory is the way forward. It is now abundantly clear to me that one rogue nation is a clear and present danger to peace on this planet. This nation is involved in subverting international trade and politics using various economic inducements, extortion, trade barriers, foreign aid, secret black ops, and military muscle. This nation has become a militaristic war state backed by a crony industrial branch that buys favours from a corrupt and overly powerful ruling elite. This nation must be stopped before more countries are invaded and more innocents lose their lives and loved ones. We only have to look at the levelling of Fallujha to see what will happen if preemptive action is not taken immediately.
We will have to Nuke the USA. There is no other way.




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Monday, February 7, 2005 - 2:52amSanction this postReply
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"We will have to Nuke the USA. There is no other way."

Goddammit No6, have you read ANYTHING on SOLO about the evils of attempting to morally equate the U.S. with sinkholes like Saddam's Iraq? Poor Tibor is trying to knock some sense into the anti-war position, to root it in something other than knee-jerk anti-Americanism, and you go around making posts like that.

If you really want to do the anti-war side some good, you'll bite that sneering little tongue of yours.



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Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 2:06amSanction this postReply
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No. 6: "We will have to Nuke the USA. There is no other way."

Wow, man you have put yourself into a sick hole.




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Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 9:30amSanction this postReply
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Come in No 6, your time is up!!!

Your village just called, their idiot is missing!!!

(Edited by Marcus Bachler on 2/08, 9:32am)




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Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 5:25pmSanction this postReply
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A sick idiot perhaps. But my point seems to be lost on Bush style statists. My comments above are the logical conclusion of using Bush and Linz' own reasoning. And believe me, many out their have already come to this conclusion with perhaps an unhappy end for the US.



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Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 1:29amSanction this postReply
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I would urge everyone to adopt my policy of not responding to cowards who post under pseudonyms. I pass their excrement from the moderator queue only because it shows up the soul of a Saddamite for what it is—cowardly & vicious. I note that not a single supporter of the liberation of Iraq hides behind a pseudonym.

No wonder Tibor saw fit to dissociate himself from the filth that shares his view of the liberation. I would argue that he can't have his cake & eat it too, but at least he's fastidious enough to be offended by the maggots crawling around in the cake.

Linz



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Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 6:05amSanction this postReply
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Honest men can disagree on foreign policy, especially the merits of a particular war. While I disagree with Tibor, Chris Sciabarra and some of the folks at Cato on these matters, they are honest intellectuals and I don't put them in the same category as the Saddamites (as I know you don't, either, Linz). Those who simply disagree with U. S. foreign policy are one thing; those who caricature the U. S. as The Evil Empire are something quite different.



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