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Post 60

Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 3:58pmSanction this postReply
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Mike, I shouldn't have done this but I sanctioned your post with naked Ashley talk.

---Landon

(Edited by Landon Erp on 2/01, 3:59pm)


Post 61

Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 5:59pmSanction this postReply
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"Did you ever know that you're my hero
You're everything I wish..."

Since I now have that damned song running around my head, I thought it only fitting that the rest of you do as well.  HA!!!

(Edited by Jody Allen Gomez on 2/01, 6:00pm)


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Post 62

Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 6:19pmSanction this postReply
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No worries, Mike. Michael knows I would take my clothes off for him anytime. To respond to his earlier request, I will put some thoughts out there about my view of myself as a heroic being.

I have talked before with some people here about the vision I have always had of myself as something special, of my life as something golden. I don't recall having it told or taught to me, but maybe it was. I do recall riding my horse hell-for-leather across fields, singing Emmylou Harris at the top of my lungs:

Well i was born to run
To get ahead of the rest
And all that i wanted was to be the best
Just to feel free and be someone
I was born to be fast i was born to run.

My heroes are people who have a clearly defined sense of self; they know what they believe in, what is important, how they want to live. They are uncompromising. Their actions have reasons. They are not ruled by emotions, but they feel powerfully in the presence of beauty, accomplishment, greatness. They generally know a lot about many things. They may have done something so extraordinary that they are known to all. More likely their lives are quietly extraordinary, filled with people who admire and are inspired by them on a local level.

My heroes pursue their work and avocations competently and creatively. With joy, honesty, and mindfulness.

I love my heroes, in a breathless, sacred way. And I think I am as much like them as I can be at this point. I am an inspiration to myself as my heroes are to me and I am to others. I feel amazement at myself on a regular basis.

I think that there has to be some connection on a personal level for someone to be a hero to me, rather than just a person who has accomplished something. For example, there are people in many arenas (politics, science, art) who have done great things that I don't understand or have little interest in. But I know artists who pursue their crafts in such a way that they are heroic to me. I know scientists who create wonderful, elegant tools and develop ideas that excite me! Today my mechanic diagnosed my car without doing much more than putting his hand on it, and then talked about it so clearly and reasonably that it made me want to get to know him better.

I don't think a hero needs to be larger than life. I think my heroes are deliciously real, living people that have their shit so together that they take being alive to a whole new level.

Post 63

Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 10:11pmSanction this postReply
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Lance,

Thanks for your comments.  Accepting that we are in control is huge.  That's another point where Objectivist heroes clearly stand out.   Instead being "the chosen ones" by fate, they actively shape their own fate.

Ashley,

That was an awesome post.

-JJ


Post 64

Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 10:45pmSanction this postReply
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I'm only responding in this thread because of the following statement (by Ash) that had been abbreviated on the home page ...

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No worries, Mike. Michael knows I would take my clothes off ...
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Sorry folks, but I'm only acting as a straight male would (should?) have. Sheesh, as Rand had said, no entity can act in contradiction to its nature!

;-)

Ed
[at least I admit it]


Post 65

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 3:15amSanction this postReply
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Ashley,

Splendid.

Michael


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Post 66

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:19amSanction this postReply
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So I began working today with my post from yesterday ringing in my ears, trying to be attentive to anything that would reinforce my self-image, in case I am delusional. It's eleven o'clock, and already I have had an awesomely joyous experience.

This morning I was conducting speech therapy with a couple of kids who have pretty significant problems. We have been working on pronouns and possession for a while, they typically get things confused along the lines of "Him taking your stuff" instead of "He is taking my paper." So today we are playing a game, looking though a book of early actions, speaking in a round robin fashion. First, I model:

"She is touching her ear. Everybody touch your ears!"
"Look! He is touching his ear. You are touching your ear! I am touching my ear!"

One girl started it wrong. I repeated a couple of times, and then she got it. Round after round, she got the pronouns all right. Suddenly, her face lights up, and she isn't just imitating me, she gets it.

"Miss Ashley! Look! I am touching my leg! You are touching your leg! He is touching his leg!"

Ok, this happens often - it's my job. It makes me happy.

Therapy ends. I said "Here's your folder."

She looked right at me, and said "This is my folder. This is his folder."

She went back into her class. To her teacher:

"This is my folder. This is my seat. This is my pencil."

It reminded me of the moment in "Anthem" when Promethius discovers the word which has been erased. Not understanding the most basic or most complicated aspects of language stops the ability not only to communicate with others, but to comprehend the world and how it applies to one's self. It gives me a heroic feeling to help people connect these dots and to see how it affects the way they live. It gives me pride to be able to think of new ways to communicate these concepts to people who have trouble understanding.


Post 67

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:33amSanction this postReply
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Ashley,

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One girl started it wrong. I repeated a couple of times, and then she got it. Round after round, she got the pronouns all right. Suddenly, her face lights up, and she isn't just imitating me, she gets it.
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This kind of stuff makes my eyes water.

Ed


Post 68

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 12:21pmSanction this postReply
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Like the scene in 'The Miracle Worker' - "water"....

Post 69

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 2:29pmSanction this postReply
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There's a similar scene from a movie I've enjoyed... "She never gets old!" Inspiring.

---Landon


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Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 3:00pmSanction this postReply
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Rev,
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Like the scene in 'The Miracle Worker' - "water"....
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I balled-my-eyes-out watching that (I wimpered like a little school girl). I know of no other story that is THAT MUCH inspiring regarding human potential.

Her story is a sublime embodiment of human possibility.

Ed


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Post 71

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 4:05pmSanction this postReply
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Hi Ed:

In my circles -
"I balled my eyes out"
and
"I bawled my eyes out"
mean two completely different things.

Here's hoping the Miracle Worker made your eyes well up and nothing else.

Post 72

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 4:53pmSanction this postReply
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MUST STOP SANCTIONING INAPPROPRIATE COMMENTS!

---Landon


Post 73

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 6:35pmSanction this postReply
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Ashley,

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In my circles -
"I balled my eyes out"
and
"I bawled my eyes out"
mean two completely different things.
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I think I'm intimidated by what's in your circles.


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MUST STOP SANCTIONING INAPPROPRIATE COMMENTS!

---Landon
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Note to self.

:-)

Ed
[a little slap-happy from low sleep -- please excuse]


Post 74

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 6:54pmSanction this postReply
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Ashley,

"No worries, Mike. Michael knows I would take my clothes off for him anytime."

I would love to see the result.

"Ok, this happens often - it's my job. It makes me happy. "

My wife, Karen, still corrects me once in awhile, I will say something like "Him and I went to the store". I really didn't hear the problem with that until she told me "Would you say "HIM went to the store"?" So, I get it. Yeah, I had a problem when I was a kid. Went to a speech therapist at the elementary school. Fixed the stutter, I guess let the rest pass. I didn't have an Ashley. Karen's doing a pretty good job.

I am so very fond of you. Best wishes, forever.

Mike E.

Post 75

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 7:37pmSanction this postReply
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Ashley:

     Well, after reading all these...inappropriate comments...I, for one (probably Ed too, I'd guess) am waiting for your next picture (pant, pant) !

     Seriously, also (er, I mean 'though'), re your posts on 'problem kids': Have you (or for that matter, anyone on this thread) read anything by Torey Hayden? Her 'memoir' books are fascinating in how she learned on her own, over years, how to deal with 'problem kids'.

                       http:www.torey-hayden.com

     If you 'click' there, check 'the books' section.

LLAP
J:D


Post 76

Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 7:52pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks for your comments guys...

JJ (I didn't say it before, but this was an awesome article. I am sorry we seem to have hijacked this thread with prurient thoughts. Someone said a few days ago "Ashley makes anything sound dirty." Apparently even the most forthright of topics, even. I look forward to hearing more about this at the conference which I will be attending and have sworn to make my travel arrangements with great care so as to avoid repeat of last year's moment of boneheadedness)

Michael (you are beautiful and one of my heroes)

Landon (Yes, you are only encouraging my inappropriateness)

Ed (don't be afraid)

Mike E. (Thanks for saying that)

John (I haven't read anything by Torey Hayden but the website looks interesting and I will be sure to put it on the list)



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Post 77

Friday, February 3, 2006 - 6:41pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks Ash!

Continuing some thoughts about objectivist heros, we seem to come to a few possibilities:

1. Someone who takes on extreme adversity and succeeds at putting it in its place.

2. Succeeding in life to such a degree that one has a full sense of joy in their life.

3. That one is an innovator and superlative at what they do. Like the greatest one in their field.

Thoughts?

Michael


Post 78

Friday, February 3, 2006 - 6:48pmSanction this postReply
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Mike drooled:
"I would love to see the result."

Mike, if you really want to see the result, perhaps you can commission it, you know. Although Newberry claims not to do commissions, he seems willing to make exceptions for special cases. ;-^ 


Post 79

Friday, February 3, 2006 - 7:00pmSanction this postReply
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Newberry asks "...thoughts about objectivist heros".

OK, here is one: should "Objectivist hero" be an objective or subjective thing?


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