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Friday, January 20, 2012 - 6:35pmSanction this postReply
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One would hope that the american government will indeed pull their head out of their ass and encourage cuba's moving towards a free society and stop punishing them.

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Friday, January 20, 2012 - 8:05pmSanction this postReply
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It is not US Policies that are and have been tubing things in Cuba; it is Cuban policies that are and have been tubing things in Cuba.

There is no US trade embargo, and hasn't been for decades. It is purely symbolic, and it's not even clear who the symbolism is for at this point.

The US has open and free trade with Canada, Canada has open and free trade with Cuba, and the helpful folks at the Cuba Desk in the State Department are only too glad to cheerfully spell that out to anyone who spends 10 minutes making the phone call.

I never sold a system to Cuba. But I did sell many systems to my Canadien dealer, who placed them in his inventory, and who later sold one of them to Cuba, where it ended up at the Havana Airport--much to my surprise(which was an explicit part of the instructions from the lawyer at the Cuban Desk of the State Dept...) The unsurprising details of that transaction -- including the requisite surprise -- were spelled out cheerfully by the lawyer who answered the phone at the State Dept Cuba Desk-- the very folks supposedly projecting this embargo.

And after 50 years of this so-called trade embargo for the masses, if there is anyone left in the US who doesn't understand that, then it is getting increasingly hard to understand why not.

The Cuban Trade Embargo is gesture politics. Period. It has no teeth at all.



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Friday, January 20, 2012 - 8:10pmSanction this postReply
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It shouldn't be called an embargo.

It should be called a minor inconvenience in buying wholesale.

The main benefactor of the Cuban Trade embargo has been Canada!

And whoever in Florida thinks it is real.

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Friday, January 20, 2012 - 9:17pmSanction this postReply
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Fred, there has been one other beneficiary: Castro. He has built a good part of his career on blaming the US for the trouble wrought by his policies. He has spent decades saying or implying that but for the American government the Cuban people would not have the problems they do. I don't think they buy it.

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Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 3:19pmSanction this postReply
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Very nice essay.  I am surprised that this is your position, though it is perfectly consistent with free market principles, because it does run contrary to the Cold War ethos.  Your point was well-made and trusting in the election of a more conservative cabal in 2012, we may see the change you recommend, just as it was Pres. Nixon who opened the door to China by meeting Mao Zedong, something no Democrat could have gotten away with.

I agree with the other sentiments that Cuba's poverty cannot be laid on Washington's doorstep.  And Cuba's problem is not merely socialism but the undemocratic nature of theirs.  India suffers, but India exports computer programmers. Cuba "could have" enjoyed a lot of things these last 50 years.

Also, as noted, though, trade and commerce do flow despite barriers. 

The fact remains that trade is a two-way street.  Exports to are nice, but imports from are the touchstone.  Try buying a Cuban cigar.  Or coin.  Cuba released a Pirates of the Caribbean series that no US numismatic publication would touch.  The coins are contraband and can be seized without a warrant.  ... even if they are imported through Canada.


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