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CAPITALISM AND WAR
Capitalism is the opposite of war. Capitalism is a means of production.  War, by definitiuon, is destruction. Under capitalism, every good or service -- even the lightest of entertainments -- has the potential to be a new tool of production.  In war, every act destroys resources, your own as well as those of your enemy.  Capitalism lets individuals who have nothing else in common -- sometimes, not even language -- find a single common interest that is mutually profitable.  Wars involve anonymous masses who might have shared a wide range of cultural attributes before they demonized each other for their mutual destruction. 

Capitalism has been criticized by socialists for being the cause of war.  Obviously, wars existed before capitalism.  So, the problem must be deeper than that.  Historically, charismatic leaders -- whether Roman truumvirs or American industrialists -- have always used every tool to further their own interests.  Yanking the strings of their paid puppets in the Senate is just one opportunity.  It is also true that the prosecution of war demands resources which some people can produce and sell to the state and thereby profit from war.  The fact is that capitalism can exist without war.  Without resources -- swords or rocket propelled grenades; dried meat or meals-ready-to-eat -- war is impossible.

Business interests do resist war.  Just before the War of 1812, New Englanders at the Hartford Convention considered secession from the Union.  Although it was their ships that were being plundered by the British, war would have been even worse.  When the government in Washington D.C. declared war, the calls for secession of New England were put aside, along with much of the commerce between the United Kingdom and the United States. Commercial opposition to the War Between the States, the Two World Wars and the Two Gulf Wars does not get a lot of attention in mass media or public schools.

Why would merchants resist a war that "everyone" wants, especially when they can profit from selling materiel to the state?  The reason why is that successful merchants see through what Frederic Bastiat called the fallacy of the broken window.  In Bastiat's scenario, a hoodlum has smashed the baker's window and stolen some bread.  "This is good," the crowd says.  Now the glazier will have work.  The baker must pay the glazier and replace the stolen loaves, so his assistants will have more work.  The money from the glazier and the kitchen helpers will circulate in town and we will all be richer. Of course, they will not.  In fact, they are all poorer right now. The destruction of resources is never good.

Time, effort, material, energy, thought, and emotion that go into the production of weapons of war are lost forever.  Swords prevent plows.  Tanks prevent tractors.  Radar screens prevent television sets.  Aircraft carriers prevent airports. 

Plows and airports are tools of production; they increase harvests and speed transportation. No abundance comes from swords and aircraft carriers. When a jet airliner takes off, the production and use of the plane, its fuel, support personnel, etc., are all paid for.  Each passenger has found a profitable exchange in the purchase of a ticket and the air carrier has willingly taken their money for its own profit. When a military jet takes off on a sortie, no one's life is improved and the entire infrastructure that makes the plane possible is depleted.  This is not a new fact.  For two hundred years, Spain looted the New World of silver and gold. Spain became poorer and poorer.  The simple truth is that it cost more to get each shipment than the precious metals were worth on the market.  More subtly, as loot or booty or plunder, the precious metals had no special value to the Spanish.  Rather than being invested, the money was sqaundered.  In the meantime, Holland enjoyed the Northern Renaissance.  The basic truth that explains this is not a matter of ancient history.  The United Kingdom and the United States were victorious in two World Wars.  As a result, the money of their governments slid from gold to silver to curpo-nickel.  Victories are always expensive.  Of course, defeats cost even more.

The fact is that profit and loss are signals that tell us when we are doing something right or when our actions are wrong.  More than just counting the coins that go in the cashbox this moment, every merchant looks to the future, calculating the costs and benefits of alternatives. Risk is the source of profit, but profit must exceed risk, or the risk is unprofitable and is avoided.  Will red coffee cups sell faster than blue ones?  Will coffee cups sell better than socks?  Will dry goods be a better investment than music disks?  Somehow these decisions are not as glorious as the decision to charge uphill against cannon, no matter how many lives are lost.  Tennyson wrote about the Charge of the Light Brigade.  Waterford's fountain pen went unheralded.  Which of them changed the world for the better?  Waterford's pens brought him profit and put money in the tills of the stores that sold them and made work more productive for millions of people.  In every case, each buyer, each seller, looked to the profitability of the purchase as weighed against the risks. 

The true risks of war are never assessed.  At war with the Dutch in 1899, the British invented "concentration camps" for control of civilians.  The use of concentration camps by the Nazis is infamous.  Less often discussed are the concentration camps of the United States in which American citizens were imprisoned because their ancestors happened to come from a nation with which the United States was at war.  War destroys civilizations -- winners as well as losers -- because war dehumanizes all participants.  The modern phrase is "post traumatic stress disorder."  People who experience violence become violent.  Americans were shocked to see Palestinians celebrating in the streets when The Two Towers fell.  Of course, no Americans have had their homes bulldozed recently, so the Palestinians seem odd to us.  We make a big fuss when airport screeners feel us up.  Few of us get thrown to the ground and beaten for being out past curfew.  This is not to excuse the Palestinians, but to warn that as long as we act like them, we make it harder to stop acting like them. 

Is the anger of the Palestinians justified?  Is American outrage appropriate?  Feeling anger is one thing; acting on it is another. Rational people are not governed by their emotions.  The fact is that World War II was not the result of Henry Ford getting back at the Opel Family for selling out to General Motors.  Despite the fact that Albert Einstein and Werner Heisenberg had deep differences in physics and politics, neither saw fit to shoot the other.  Destruction of that which threatens is the instinctive response of a sub-rational brute.  The high minded person who relies on intellect to solve problems finds a solution that at least avoids losses, even if it cannot discover mutual profit.

The excuse for war is always the same: the enemy threatens us with extinction; therefore, they must be destroyed. Such is seldom the case.  We, the people, seldom meet them, the people.  If we asked them why they want to destroy us, their answer would be some form of "You want to destroy us first, so we need to destroy you even firster." In that case, war seems inevitable.  It is not.  Trade prevents war. Trade ends war. Trade brings individuals together -- admittedly, for their own selfish interests, but it brings people together nonetheless.  Capitalism survives and thrives on voluntary agreements.  People who freely choose to associate for their common profit are on the path of peace.

 


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Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:10pmSanction this postReply
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Michael,

I like the points you make in your article. I'm having a little trouble envisioning a transition to a world without wars.
I agree that war is not glorious. But, I am not a pacifist. By that I mean, aggression needs a response. Large scale aggression needs a large scale response, which we call war. Every day we spend resources to protect ourselves against aggression. We have expensive locks and security systems on our homes and cars, we have police forces at every level of government, a large part of our judicial system is devoted to adjudicating the aggressive acts done by one person on another. In the case of war, is it just a matter of scale? It occurred to me, reading the articles about the 150,000 + people killed in the tsunami, that approximately the same number of persons are said to be killed every year, in the US only, by "medical mistakes". But the tsunami is considered to be a "world changing" event. I fervently wish for a completely trader driven world, an objectivist one, but I think that will take a long time. Meanwhile, I think self defense is a prudent policy and money regretfully, but well spent. As far as trading preventing war, trading creates the wealth that ultimately gets plundered. Of course the traders don't want war. Isn't it the looters that always start the wars? Interesting that the world TRADE center was targeted.

(Edited by Mike Erickson on 1/11, 4:30pm)


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Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 6:58amSanction this postReply
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Mike Erickson wrote: I like the points you make in your article. I'm having a little trouble envisioning a transition to a world without wars.
A "transition" is not necessary.  I do agree that there is some time between the first of anything and its widespread appearance.  The telegraph, the computer, or Objectivist epistemology, any new tool benefits those who adopt it.
"... aggression needs a response. Large scale aggression needs a large scale response, which we call war."
There are two threads in Quotes about "Violence is the last resort of the incompetent."  Only one has comments.  Writing in that thread (http://www.solohq.com/Forum/Quotes/0356.shtml), I said:
 Sometimes the other guy finds you incompetent.  You have no time to think, and you resort to (minimum required) force.  ... Often, the subject is in conflict with himself: emotional, drunk, etc. It is hard to reason with someone in such a state.  Still, the burden is on the rational man.  ... Best of all is being able to plan ahead, predict the conflicts, and avoid them, ameliorate them, or resolve them before they happen to you. 
The events leading to war play out a lot slower than facing an attacker on the street. Historically, the rational, individualist, mercantile response to war has been to pack up and get out.  When the Persians moved in on Ionia, that is what many Greeks did.  They did this, also, in Akragas, on Sicily, when the Carthaginians besieged the town. The traditionalist collectivist agrarian response to aggression is to send your sons out to die for the land of their ancestors. 

We always demonize the enemy.  If "they" conquered "us" then "our" lives would be over.  Usually, only the leaders of the tribe get killed, and sometimes not even that.  Usually, it makes no difference one way or another who rules. 

Also, there is the collectivist fallacy of the muscle mystic. A totally evil, corrupt, totalitarian, mystical, irrational Kantian subjectivist regime is no threat to truly free nation. What happens is that the leaders of one nation fear (and admire) the leaders in another.  Roosevelt was pretty sure that Hitler was getting away with something he himself could not pull off.  So, the mighty, invincible, unstoppable, blitzkrieg war machine of the efficient German state where trains really do run on time was to be feared.  Basically, I deny that.
Every day we spend resources to protect ourselves against aggression. We have expensive locks and security systems on our homes and cars, we have police forces at every level of government, a large part of our judicial system is devoted to adjudicating the aggressive acts done by one person on another.
If you have to wear Second Chance on the street, maybe you need to find a new town, or maybe you just need to make more friends.  I know that in New York City, visiting my brother, walking in midtown Manhattan, I saw two nice looking white guys attack a padlock with a jimmy bar.  "Did you see that?" I asked my brother.  "See what?" he replied.  On the other hand, living in Fowlerville, Michigan, I was in the habit of walking out the door and going to the post office without worrying about locking the lock, or even closing the inside door, as long as the screen door kept the bugs out.  Here in Traverse City, people in town often lock their doors when they leave, but in the country where I am all you do is risk locking yourself out.  I mean everyone has dogs and guns and you might think of that as "expensive locks and security systems" but most of my neighbors think of dogs as companions and of guns as another kind of tennis raquet.  Most people in most times and places are pretty easy to get along with.

As for the police, most of what they do -- and they do very little -- involves nonsense like drugs, not pure aggression.  Also, if drugs were not illegal, much of the associated "violent crime" would also evaporate.  Gambling is pretty much government-run these days with a lot of it being run by Native American governments on their own territories.  Prostitution is still illegal and still seems to occupy a lot of police attention.  So, too, with "national defense."  Nations devote tremendous resources to mystical military planning.  If national defense were rational defense, it would look a lot different than it does.
Of course the traders don't want war. Isn't it the looters that always start the wars? Interesting that the world TRADE center was targeted.
I am surprised that more words were not written about the fact that the mystic martyrs attacked the World Trade Center.  The fact was noted in some objectivist media.  And it is true that by definition looters start wars.  The question is: what is a rational response?

The answer to that rolls back the problem to before the war started to find the causes and figure out ways to address them.  There are two different ways to see this.  On the one hand, we learn from experience and those who are ignorant of history are condemned to repeat it.  On the other hand, it is an axiom of economics that past prices are irrelevant, so rather than planning to refight the last war, the agoric mode would be to predict the next one and plan to avoid it.


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Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 9:06amSanction this postReply
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Jacob Brownowski had it right in "The Accent of Man" - war is organized theft.

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Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 8:51pmSanction this postReply
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War is the inevitable result of our anarchic international system.  The trade off for the relative individual security one attains from the rule of law provided by the proper functions of government (courts, police, contracts etc) is that nations and governments have no third party arbiter to reconcile disputes according to universally recognized laws.  Thus war. 

Shy of having one world government, I see no end to war.  Here's an interesting question: if the whole world were governed under one libertarian government, would that be desirable?


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Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 9:02pmSanction this postReply
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Michael,

"The telegraph, the computer, or Objectivist epistemology, any new tool benefits those who adopt it."

I agree, the competent use of force should also be in your toolbox for the infrequent occasions when it is needed, and I do not think that is inconsistent with Objectivist epistemology.  I believe planning ahead and avoiding violence whenever possible is always the best policy.  But I also believe that the concepts of rights has no meaning without the implied use of force to guard those rights.

"'Violence is the last resort of the incompetent,' [said] Isaac Asimov. Right; the competent don't wait that long.  Jerry Pournelle"
 
I have to agree with Jerry Pournelle.  I agree that security guards should avoid confrontation if possible.  They are supposed to call the police and observe, if they can, while waiting for the police to arrive.  That is the niche that they occupy.  The philosophy that guides them is, by your presence be a deterrent, take no risks.  That is not a appropriate philosophy for everyone for all occasions.  When faced with aggressive force and you cannot immediately retreat, you must try to take control of the situation.  You have to immediately dissuade your aggressor from any idea that he has anything to gain, and lot's to lose, by continuing his aggression.  Defensive fighters are much less successful than offensive ones.

"If you have to wear Second Chance on the street, maybe you need to find a new town, or maybe you just need to make more friends."
 
Well, I have been thinking of moving away from the bay area [SF eastbay] after my wife retires.  Partly to find a more friendly area.  Not everyone is in a situation that makes moving away from their homes a reasonable alternative to just buying a gun or putting locks and security systems in place.  I hope I don't sound too callous.
 
"Also, there is the collectivist fallacy of the muscle mystic. A totally evil, corrupt, totalitarian, mystical, irrational Kantian subjectivist regime is no threat to truly free nation."

I need to know more about what you mean by truly free nation.  Do you mean a truly objectivist nation?  I wholeheartedly agree.


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Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 5:14amSanction this postReply
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Robert Malcolm wrote: Jacob Brownowski had it right in "The Accent of Man" - war is organized theft.
 I have a couple of copies of The Ascent of Man.  With much in storage right now, I was happy to find a nice copy cheap for my desk right now. 

I watched the series back in 1975 or so when it ran on PBS and at the same time, I took a college class in philosophy that tracked the series. 

Relevant to this thread, Bronowski equated the German tank to the Bactrian horseman.  The lust for power seems like a dynamic force, but it is not.  Destruction is not just another kind of creation.  I read that lust for destruction in the words of posters here who want to destroy the enemy, bomb cities, crush opponents, etc., etc.  They declare all civilians guilty and fantasize themselves as powerful destroyers of anything that stands in their way -- a farmhouse, a farmer, a farm animal.

Also, Bronowski differentiates war from other forms of animal aggression.  War is not merely an expresssion of territoriality, some abstracted form of plumage display.  War is organized theft. 

Not only does war steal from the "others" outside of your social group, but to make war possible, the leaders of your social group must steal from you first.  Sometimes, they promise you the rewards of plunder.  Sometimes, you don't even get that much, just a patriotic glow of pride in the death of your children, parents, friends, neighbors, who gave their lives for this great victory. When victory eludes, revenge remains.

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 1/13, 5:16am)


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Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 5:31amSanction this postReply
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Pete wrote: "... nations and governments have no third party arbiter to reconcile disputes according to universally recognized laws.  Thus war. "
In point of fact, wars have been averted by arbitration.  The international court at the Hague was founded in 1899. 

Before that, Pope Pius IX prevented war between Austria and Italy in 1860, I believe, simply by threatening to excommunicate anyone who fought in it.  (He also threated to excommunicate Metternich, in a separate action.)  So that is an example of using moral force to prevent war.

The prevention of war does not receive the attention that war gets. The prevention of war has a long and glorious history, oddly lacking in trumpets, drums, and patriotic songs. 

We study wars in public schools, of course, and we never question the wars or the schools or connect the one with the other.

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 1/13, 6:06am)


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Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 6:04amSanction this postReply
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Mike Erickson wrote: [Security guards] are supposed to call the police and observe, if they can, while waiting for the police to arrive.  That is the niche that they occupy.  The philosophy that guides them is, by your presence be a deterrent, take no risks.
Private security guards do often have the legal right to kill.  It depends on the state that licenses them.  Sometimes, they are deputized by law and licensing.  It is not they must defer to the police who have the moral right to use force.  It is that there is no profit in death.  

The market impels toward and rewards specific actions. 

Private security guards and police have different ways of dealing with attempted aggression against property and people because private security is driven by profit, and public police are a socialized institution.

The fact is that the rational capitalist recognizes that property is not worth dying for.  The irrational collectivist is willing to see other people die to defend property they do not own.  (By "they" I mean both the collectivist motivator and the motvated victims.)  This is not to allow theft, but only to point out that preventing theft begins long before the thief comes to the property.  Similarly, preventing war begins long before armies are mobilized.

Police have no pay-back in preventing crime: they only get budget increases from the tax coffers when crime increases.  Similarly, the armed forces are not rewarded for preventing war, only for fighting. 

On the other hand, the owner of a security firm has a long inventory of items that are cheaper than the life of a guard and just as effective at preventing loss.

Depending on the socialized defenses of government (army and police) allowed the destruction of the World Trade Center.  (Is it not the purpose of the air force to prevent aerial assault against our cities?  Why did they fail?  Could they have succeeded?  In the absence of collectivized defense -- as effective as collectivized farming -- how would the owners of a skyscraper prevent its destruction by a madman?)  Compounding the original error will not make the problem go away.


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Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 6:48amSanction this postReply
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Well said, Michael.

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Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 8:32pmSanction this postReply
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Beautifully reasoned, and powerfully persuasive. Your article and your posted rejoinders comprise some of the most intelligent commentary on the nature of war--and violence-- that I have had the pleasure of reading. Thank you!

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Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 11:34amSanction this postReply
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Terrific article, Mr. Marotta. Capitalism is indeed the opposite of war. Some business benefits from war, sometimes, but overall, it's just destruction.

For some beautiful stuff on the victims of 9/11 in the World Trade Center, who sought peace and freedom and whose work helped make civilization possible, I recommend Lew Rockwell's two articles, one "A Tribute to Trade," written a day after 9/11, and another, "Forgotten Victims of 9/11," written a little before the one-year anniversary.

Here's an excerpt from the first piece:

Think especially of the remarkable people in that place who facilitated international trade. They daily accomplished the seemingly impossible. Faced with a world of more than two hundred countries, and hundreds more languages and dialects, with as many currencies and legal regimes, and thousands of local cultural differences, and billions of consumers, they found ways to make peaceful exchange possible. They looked for and seized on every opportunity that presented itself to enable human cooperation.

No government has been able to accomplish anything this remarkable. It is a miracle made possible by commerce, and by those who undertake the burden of making it happen.

We often hear platitudes about the brotherhood of man. But you don’t see it at the United Nations or at the summits of governments. There you see conflicts, resolved usually by the use of other people’s money taken by force. But at the World Trade Center, the brotherhood of man was an everyday affair.


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I'm delighted to see some sanity and sense returning to this forum, in contrast to the warmongering ravings of various people. Well done piece, and good comments from Mr. Gregory as well!

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Mike, you da man. Thank you for once again speaking my mind. You've expressed my views very well on several occasions.
Capitalism is a means of production.  War, by definition, is destruction
Need I say more?


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I am for sanity and sense and against warmongering. Still and though I am no great friend of Schopenhauer I adhere to what he said about the death penalty: “I will be  fully against the death penalty… as soon as murderers stop murdering.”

 

May I, thus, I remind those who profess to be Objectivists yet defend peace at all costs and don’t consider civilians (apart from young people up to the time when they are legally considered to be full adults – around age 21) to be responsible for some wars, etc. of some of Rand’s own words? I think this will clear the issue:

 

From “Collectivized Rights” (1963) (See. “The Virtue of Selfishness):

 

“There are four characteristics which brand a country unmistakably as a dictatorship: one-party rule – executions without trial or with a mock trial, for political offenses – the nationalization or expropriation of private property – and censorship. A country guilty of these outrages forfeits any moral prerogatives, any claim to national rights or sovereignty, and becomes an outlaw.”

 

“Dictatorship nations are outlaws. Any free nation had the right to invade Nazi Germany and, today, has the right to invade Soviet Russia (Reminder: This was written in 1963), Cuba or any other slave pen. Whether a free nation chooses to do so or not is a matter of its own self-interest, not of respect for the nonexisting “rights” of gang rulers. It is not a free nation’s duty to liberate other nations at the price of self-sacrifice, but a free nation has the right to do it, when and if it so chooses.”

 

Oh, and by the way, for those interested in the purely technical detail of carpet and pinpoint bombing: Bombers during WWII were already very able to accomplish these pinpoint bombings. There is a scale model in Frankfurt am Main showing the total destruction of the city… excepting one solitary building standing in the middle of the whole devastation. It had been selected by the American Task Force as the place for their Headquarters, and they used it as such after invading Germany!



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