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Post 140

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 1:00pmSanction this postReply
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Dean,

I fully agree with your last post. A decision to perform surgery, even on a baby, must be based on reason - never on faith.

Thank you for standing up for that.

Michael


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Post 141

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 2:11pmSanction this postReply
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“A decision to perform surgery, even on a baby, must be based on reason - never on faith.”

Reason, sure. But it must be based also, if not primarily, on giving the runt a shot at top-notch performances that make an Ashley sing about them in public.


Post 142

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 3:00pmSanction this postReply
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Jon,

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...

I want to say... er... ahem...

Well, Ashley... uhm...

Yeah.

Michael


Post 143

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 3:16pmSanction this postReply
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Now that this thread has just about run down I'd like to say, I was circumcised as an infant, I learned many years ago that my saliva makes an excellent lubricant, I've always enjoyed sex VERY much and if I were any more sensitive I think my head would explode. And how comfortable is masturbation for uncircumcised males? Or is it even possible without great care to prevent maiming your poor unprotected penises?

As far as going to a great deal of trouble and expense [and pain?] reversing the procedure, I say, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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Post 144

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 3:34pmSanction this postReply
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Masturbation with skin is good for the same reasons as penetration - you don't rub anything raw with all the friction. No foreskin, better use some lube. With a foreskin the whole thing just moves along the shaft. Of course, I am speaking here of "giving a hand." Obviously I can't speak in the first person about masturbation, er, of a penis, that is.

I am afraid this thread is going to get us censored from schools and anyone with net-nanny software once and for all.

Post 145

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 3:46pmSanction this postReply
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Mike Erickson revealed:
... my saliva makes an excellent lubricant ...
This brings to mind those old shows where the man would spit into each palm and then rub his palms together before grabbing an axe or some other tool of manual labor.  I guess we just learned today of another "tool" on which the technique works!


Post 146

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 3:51pmSanction this postReply
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"I am afraid this thread is going to get us censored from schools and anyone with net-nanny software once and for all. "

"Heaven forbid" if some kid actually learns something helpful and becomes a little saner for it. He might become an objectivist.

Post 147

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 3:56pmSanction this postReply
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Masturbation with skin is good for the same reasons as penetration - you don't rub anything raw with all the friction. No foreskin, better use some lube. With a foreskin the whole thing just moves along the shaft. Of course, I am speaking here of "giving a hand." Obviously I can't speak in the first person about masturbation, er, of a penis, that is.

Well spoken for someone who posesses neither foreskin nor a penis it goes on.

Ah to be 13 again and going crazy any time I was alone for more than five minutes.

---Landon


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 4:07pmSanction this postReply
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Luke,

Ha! Geez, we're trying to be serious here.

Question: Isn't the erect penis no longer covered by the foreskin? I don't see how the foreskin can protect the penis when erect unless there's a LOT of it.

Post 149

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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When the penis is fully erect it almost covers the whole unit, but it's nowhere near as loose as it is when flaccid... plus when erect you don't need as much protection, the head of the penis still needs stimulated and it needs some level of exposure to function.  

Granted too much exposure flaccid or erect is quite painful, but a small amount of exposure that would only receive contact while entering an oriface (more than likely a wet one) is helpful for stimulation.

But if you actually know what you're doing, when you're not working with something naturally wet you should never run into the problem of being rubbed raw.

And on that note I bid you good night.

---Landon


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Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 5:38pmSanction this postReply
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Mike, from what I've read, yes: the skin continues to cover the head, even when fully erect. This is necessary to protect the glans at night, and during other situations where it's not being used.

And as for masterbation, I've read that you don't even touch the head with your hand. Instead, you slide the foreskin forward and back, covering and uncovering the glans. So now instead of friction, you've got contact, no contact, pressure, no pressure, and Much less damaging friction.

I've read, the glans is naturally a very smooth, sensitive, fragile organ. Its texture and durability should be much more like the inside of your mouth or the underside of your eyelid.

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For sexual intercourse, the extra skin is beneficial to both the man and the woman. As Ashley was saying, the shaft of the penis slides in and out through the foreskin, instead of through the vagina. This means much less wear and tear on her body, and much less wear and tear on your glans (... ahem, but your glans are currently armored so you don't really get the wear and tear). This means that your lady will feel less pain, and enjoy the whole experience more. Maybe she'll even want to do it more frequently : ).

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And so far, its been pretty fun learning about and attempting to grow back more skin to provide some of the functionality I've lost. Even before my skin grows to cover my glans, I'll be protecting my glans... I'm looking forward to much better [censored!!! : )].

Post 151

Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 6:06pmSanction this postReply
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Thank you Dean.

I'm getting the idea that there really is a lot of skin in a foreskin. I've never thought of it much in the past but if I'm ever involved in a conversation about circumcision I will recommend against the procedure.

Thanks to everyone for the information. My curiosity is sated. Best of luck to you Dean.

Mike E.

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Post 152

Monday, November 28, 2005 - 4:00pmSanction this postReply
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ok, I am taking everything I previously wrote out of this post and just saying this. Here is the best, most comprehensive article about circumcision I've seen. It can be found on foreskin.org along with much information and photos.

http://www.foreskin.org/fleiss.htm
(Edited by Ashley Frazier
on 11/28, 4:18pm)


Post 153

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 4:14amSanction this postReply
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Ashley, you're simply outstanding. Case closed.

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