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Post 60

Saturday, December 2, 2006 - 7:29pmSanction this postReply
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For future readers, this is my answer to #57 in this string, although it was originally posted elsewhere*:

My father worked on the 77th floor of the South Tower, and I visited him there.

Had he not already moved out of the building prior to the attacks, and not evacuated, he would have been killed by the second impact as I watched. As it is, my 30-year neighbor's brother most likely lept to his death from Windows on the World. Two people who lived in my apartment building and six employees of my company were killed. I witnessed well over 100 funeral processions pass through my neighborhood that year, for long stretches once or twice daily. The building in which I currently work was pierced by the falling antenna. I walk past the pit some 500 or more times a year. I did not report to work the morning of the attacks, I work the 10-6 shift. I awoke to see that the first plane had hit. It was being called an accident. I cursed the announcers, and yelled at the TV saying that it was an attack, only to watch the second plane hit. I also worked in the area at the time of the first bombing under Clinton, and by luck was not in the building that day myself. My cousin was at the Pentagon when it was struck. My friend Cheryl is freezing in the Afghan winter now, where she is serving a voluntary tour of duty. This is her third tour since 9-11, she was only required to serve the first. When she has not been overseas, she has been working with me in sight of the pit. I watch daily as tourists stop and smile and have their pictures taken before this still open grave.

My father is an engineer who has built nuclear power plants, worked on battleships, and built luxury hotels and other high rises around the world. Although he had expressed to me his suspicion that LBJ may have had something to do with JFK's death, (long before Stone and the History Channel popularized this - he lived and worked for some time in Dallas) he is a sober individual not given to gossip or other lunacies. As a devout Catholic he believes as he was taught by Jesuits that it is a sin to spread gossip and a sin to speak on matters where one has no expertise or reason, especially where the accused cannot prove a negative.

So-called Objectivists should learn from this student of Aquinas.

At the time of the attack, he told me that it had been a secret, but that I should watch the news because it would come out that government investigators had moved into the building at the time he had left. It had been an honor bound secret. His statement was confirmed within two weeks of the attack. My father knew the design of the Towers and their structural limits, and the impossibility of there having been any conspiracy to rig the buildings without it being known. I would stake the life of every person I know on this matter.

In response to a private email from John Armaos I conceded that my last response to him above was impolite and that I should not have brought up the North Korea thread which I had already dropped. I apologize to him for my curtness, he has been polite to me in disagreement in the past.

I find the arguments being made on this thread in favor of conspiracy theories not only preposterous and disgusting but also personally offensive.

Ted Keer, 25 November, 2006, USA

*Originally posted here.

Post 61

Sunday, December 3, 2006 - 5:33amSanction this postReply
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Ted - You're wrong.

Innovative Islam did exist, and it was in the 13th century. it just seems to have stayed there.

Andy.


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Monday, December 4, 2006 - 5:29amSanction this postReply
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Today some of Euclid's works are only available in Arabic.


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