Ted's Down and Dirty, Git the Islamo Fascist Filth, Thread

Just who is Chris Baker?

Chris is a bored person who has nothing better to do. He has been involved with Randists before, even going to seminars. But he wonders what keeps him coming back.

He certainly doesn't want peace.

What evidence do you have for that?

Has anyone considered the possibility that he has lied about other things, such as what really happened on 11 September 2001?

I usually just say that I don't know.

Many others here don’t just ~believe~ in ~some~ morality, they understand and consistently follow a consistent morality.

I'm afraid to ask what your morality is. It seems as though that you want to kill anyone who disagrees with you just because they disagree with you.

After all, when has he ever defended the U.S.?

There is hardly anything here worth defending. Fortunately, most Americans are waking up.

Until then, you’re in Gitmo.

It must be a terrible burden to live with all that hostility, Ted. But it's a burden you have chosen to bear. I feel nothing but pity for you.

Post 21

Wednesday, September 6, 2006 - 3:27pm

Erica said:

I'm with Clarence...I wanna Gulch someplace where I can go topless and drink pina coladas. Save the Kerguelens for the Islamofascist exiles.

I want to go where Erica's going, that topless thing has a lot of potential. You other people can go somewhere else and freeze your butts off.

L W

Post 22

Wednesday, September 6, 2006 - 4:30pm

Hey, if I looked like Erica, I'd be game! LOL! :)

Post 23

Wednesday, September 6, 2006 - 4:57pm

Quite alright - I don't look like Erica either, and I'm game....;-D

Post 24

Wednesday, September 6, 2006 - 5:58pm

Ted et Phil:

Vous avez raison! Vive la pouvoir nucleaire!

Et qual langue devons-nous parler? Wir sollen die Deutsche sprechen! Warum? Weil die Franzose werden das hassen!

By the way, I've done the winter-hot-sauna-and-jump-into-something-cold thing in the Baltics, so if we can melt some of those damned glaciers to make heated pools for everyone -- which will irritate the eco-nuts -- the island might be workable. Otherwise let the Islamists freeze their asses off there.

(Edited by Ed Hudgins on 9/07, 6:46am)

(Edited by Ed Hudgins on 9/07, 6:47am)

Post 25

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 3:32am

Perhaps we could organize an Objectivist vacation to the Antarctic (http://www.globaladrenaline.com/polar/) and then decide...

Post 26

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 6:52am

Funny...like a crutch.

I really can’t say I’m feeling the biodome idea, I’d like to take a breath of fresh air without my alveoli becoming frozen.

Post 27

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 7:33am

I wanna Gulch someplace where I can go topless and drink pina coladas.

Do you have a web cam?

Post 28

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 9:52am

To Chris:
LOL! No, I don't have a webcam...but if you are inquiring whether or not I wander around topless with a cool drink at home, the answer is...hell, yeah! (Ed Thompson is trying to get me to move in with him right now.)

To Clarence:
I am still with you, buddy. I want warm fresh air and sunshine. Although the biodome thing is definitely too good for the Islamo-freaks...they deserve to freeze.

Post 29

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 11:45am

I'd bring them down myself but thats still cold even to visit. Better to go to Lowe's and buy a 12ft 2x6 to use as a plank...drop em off on my way to the islands. :)

Post 30

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 11:51am

Clarence!

I like how you think, man!

Erica

Post 31

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 12:33pm

Has anyone seen Flight 93?

Clarence and Erica, in the summer Dec-Feb it should be quite nice in the Kerguelens, at least if not raining. Biodomes would only be for agriculture and Winter activity. (And if you have never been in a large green-house such as at Longwood Gardens in Delaware or the Bronx Botanical Garden, you may be missing out on how much nicer they can be than the outdoors.) But there are two other benefits: During the last ice-age, the exposed seafloor mad the island half the size of Madagascar, yet the climate was no worse. Second, if global warming ensues, the Island should not lose too much coast, and the weather should still be better.

Can anyone who may have seen Flight 93 give there comments, review, or at least thumbs up/down? I have avoided it, given that I sometimes have nightmares, and even flinch when I here planes fly low over Manhattan. (I remember the pigeons being the only thing flying that day, flying endlessly northward by the thousands, until the Air-Force patrols buzzed over, which again freaked me out till I opened my window and looked up to see who they were.) Having recently seen the commercials for 93, I thought it might be nice to watch the Terrorists getting theirs.

Ted
(Edited by Ted Keer
on 9/07, 12:34pm)

Post 32

Thursday, September 7, 2006 - 10:48pm

Both "Flight 93" and "World Trade Center" were made with admiration for courage and heroism - of the people who tried to seize the plans and the people who rushed into the towers to try to bring people out.

But, while moving in many parts and I was glad I saw them, neither one is a well-made or great movie. I wanted to like them much more than I could. Like so many movies made today by people who don't know their craft, there was on the one hand (Flight 93) too much frenetic and hard to follow "action movie" motion, substituting action for dialogue and characterization, and on the other hand (WTC) too claustrophobic an "art movie" focus on a couple of people in distress talking in a pit without really fleshing out enough of the context and with no other outside action.

WTC is by far the better of the two pictures because you do come to respect and to care for the two lead characters (and their families).

But five years later there is still no *great* movie made about 9/11 or the war on terrorism.

Just as there was no great movie made about the fall of communism.

-----

There is a desperate need for Oists who can do more than theoretical armchair philosophy, or debate military tactics, or argue free will and determinism or anarchonuttyism.

Moviemakers.

World class writers who have put down the philosophy books and mastered their craft who can write like Mark Twain or Rudyard Kipling or Orwell and tell great and inspiring stories. And have a deep desire to do so,not as a "duty" to Objectivism but as something they love in the doing and the effort.

Both fiction and non-fiction:

Journalism.

Biography.

History.

(Edited by Philip Coates
on 9/07, 11:00pm)

Post 33

Friday, September 8, 2006 - 7:51am

There's a good review of "Flight 93" in the Summer issue of The New Individualist. If you're a TAS member or subscriber you should have it in your mailbox now or soon. If not, better join us or subscribe soon so you don't miss the intellectual stimulation and fun!

Post 34

Friday, September 8, 2006 - 8:03am

Phil,

You are bringing a topic that definitely needs to be addressed. It reminded me of an e-mail discussion I had with a man on this board. He told me: "They have to stop encouraging these people to go into philosophy."

He believed that for pragmatic purposes, as that it is one of the toughest disciplines where you can get a job. We agreed that the movement might be better served if more go into academia in areas such as law, psychology, or economics.

I would love to see movies made. But that is probably an even tougher area than philosophy. I have learned a lot about this over the past year.

Austin has a pretty big film scene. I have taken quite a few classes just for fun. I have loved it. I have also met some people and know just how hard they work to get ahead. There are some extremely talented, and my respect for the entire profession has went to the sky.

One young lady in particular caught my attention. One of my teachers called her "best student I've had," and he's been teaching for 20 years. She actually had a fairly big role in a Disney movie as a teen, had about a five-minute part in a movie with Vince Vaughn and Ashley Judd, and did two episodes of Walker Texas Ranger. In spite of all these accomplishments, she was still waiting tables last year.

The good thing is that I think movie-making and music-making has entered a period of decentralization and mass distribution. It's getting cheaper to do. Kevin Smith made Clerks for $30,000. Ani DiFranco has always been her own record company. The same thing is happening with books.

In fact, I have been saying for many years now that the record companies hate things like Napster because they are going to allow the artist more freedom and flexibility in the distribution his/her art. Even people like the Osbournes are now saying that they are going to do it without the record companies.

This is also going hand in hand with the destruction of radio by Clear Channel.

There already is a lot of Rand-influenced fiction--L Neil Smith, J Neil Schulman, Erika Holzer.

And as I wrote before, Jimmy Wales deserves a Nobel Prize for Wikipedia.

Post 35

Friday, September 8, 2006 - 5:05pm

Chris, I agree with you that there are some good trends going on which may "loosen up the system" and help counter the bad ones.

Post 36

Friday, September 8, 2006 - 5:09pm

Phil,

Thank you very much for the reviews. Based on what you've said, I will not watch them myself, it is far too close for home unless there is an overriding value. It's nice to get a review from someone whose premises you understand.

Ted

Post 37

Friday, September 8, 2006 - 5:12pm

Rebuilding the TWIN TOWERS protest

will be held Sunday 10th at the bandshell in Central Park.

F### the FEARDOM tower! a decapitated blasphemy.

See you all at the park

Ted

Post 38

Friday, September 8, 2006 - 5:41pm

Ted, I just want to make clear that I'm not saying either was a bad movie. They each were good movies, but not good enough for a subject that demands more. For example, Flight 93 captured the Guernica like sense of a world ripped apart into chaotic sensation and sudden events. And that was probably true on that chaotic plane. But you can't make a chaotic movie to present chaos, if you understand what I mean.

Post 39

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 1:12pm