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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 9:03pmSanction this postReply
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From "Facing Tomorrow's Global Challenge: What Role for Social Science?" by Fatos Tarifa, Journal of Applied Sociology/Sociological Practice (Ann Arbor), Vol. 23 No. 2/Vol 8. No. 2. 

Europe's problems with its burgeoning alien population, with the rise of Islam within its cities, etc., etc., etc., are Europe's problems.  America does not have the same problem with its Islamic/Muslim peoples for several reasons.

America has a history of immigration and integration, the classical paradigm of the "melting pot."  Europe does not.  Europe's laws marginalize new immigrants in ways that Americans cannot understand.  Just one example: Everyone born in the USA is an American citizen -- not so in Europe.

Immigrants to America can and do live within ethnic communities that support them.  However, in Europe Muslims can and do never leave their neighborhoods.  Women never socialize with non-Muslim women.  You can find this also in America, but it is not the norm.  The norm in America -- if there is one, a significant point in a pluralistic society -- is assimilation.

That said, Tarifa points out that Wahabbism and fundamentalism are specifically attributable to a desire to re-attach to a mythical identity that did not actually exist in tradition.  The more the West pushes for pluralism and democracy in the Arab nations, the more radical fundamentalist enemies it will create.


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Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 3:32amSanction this postReply
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Europe's problems with its burgeoning alien population, with the rise of Islam within its cities, etc., etc., etc., are Europe's problems.  America does not have the same problem with its Islamic/Muslim peoples for several reasons....in Europe Muslims can and do never leave their neighborhoods.  Women never socialize with non-Muslim women.  You can find this also in America, but it is not the norm. 

Are you sure about this, Michael? I live in New York City, and know about seven Muslims fairly well. All are nice people but -- all are supporters of jihad, and none are women.


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Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 5:56amSanction this postReply
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Death to Islam.

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