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Post 40

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 11:11amSanction this postReply
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Andrew wrote:  "Maybe we should start SOLOBlack once we actually have a black person posting here heheheh..."

Clarence Hardy is "African American".  I only know because I remember him mentioning it in at least one post.


Post 41

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 11:13amSanction this postReply
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What we should start is SOLO Asian.  There are enough of us here to start a restaurant.

Post 42

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 11:25amSanction this postReply
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While I see nothing specifically wrong with a sexual orientation group for reasons noted (though I do have reservations about its necessity), I think the idea of racially oriented groups is clearly based upon a collectivist mentality.   They would serve no legitimate purpose.  If there were a group called "SOLO Hispanic" I would not pay any attention to it. 

 - Jason

(A Spanish Language Objectivist group would be an entirely different matter of course if there were a demand for one.  This would be similar to the reasoning behind "Solo Homo")


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Post 43

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 11:29amSanction this postReply
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Jason, first of all I enjoyed meeting you at Soloc4. I was thinking of giving up my writer-in-residence to become homo-in-residence, but after meeting you and a few others there, I have to concede that I am not cute enough.

I think this is a great idea. It will be important for gay people to be conscious of their gayness, unfortunately, for some time to come Even in the most friendly environs, we just haven't had a long enough time in history to think through everything that needs to be thought through concerning same sex orientation. The very fact that Paul asks the questions he does earlier here is proof of that.

I hope this will be a place where people of good will such as Paul can feel free to ask these questions.
I believe that it is still incredibly difficult to be gay in this world- particularly, to be young and gay. Many straight people still don't understand this. I tried to let people know how being gay almost killed me when I was young in my article "How My Grandmother Saved My Life". That piece was more ripped out of me than written.

I went through hell coming to grips with my homosexuality. I am grateful to have a place like Solo where this part of my identity is put in a proper perspective, and I can concentrate on other things. And I am grateful to Jason and SOLO Homo to have a place where I can explore this part of my nature in openness and good humor.
I join proudly. When we have our annual SOLO Homo dance, I intend to wear my best dress.

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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 11:30amSanction this postReply
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Ah so Solo - velly intlesting........

Post 45

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 12:02pmSanction this postReply
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James, your post was sweet, touching, and funny.  Thank you for it.  You certainly get it.  Your second paragraph is on target.

Jason


Post 46

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 12:50pmSanction this postReply
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I thought this was related to 'Ecce Homo', then I thought "Ahh, 'The Gay Science!'".

Other possible SOLOs:

SOLO 31337 for geeks
SOLO Nuk'em for the Arab-loving people :-P
SOLO Bipedal Cheeseburgers for the SuperSized
SOLO Chrome for volitional robots
SOLO Filosofy phor filosofers

Seriously, I would be troubled if there were SOLO <insert color here>. Isn't this site a melting pot for objectivists? Perhaps all these other ideas could be subsumed into a SOLO ETC.

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Post 47

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:25pmSanction this postReply
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Good comment by Andrew Bissell.  :)  I was actually going to say:  SOLO, nay, Objectivism, should be so lucky that it starts permeating many different cultures and sub-cultures.

But since we're on the subject, let me quote the President of the Rattigan Society, from my Homonograph:

But how can advocates of a philosophy of individualism even think of joining an organization that embraces people on the basis of what some might view as a "nonessential" characteristic, namely, sexual orientation? Isn’t individualism enough? There’s no Objectivist organization for straights or women or blacks, after all.

R. Eriks Goodwin, the current Rattigan Society President, replies: "Well, why not such groups? If said groups are formed for a specific and legitimate purpose, why not?" A group of black Objectivists, for example, might wish "to counter workplace discrimination by means of education, private boycotts, etc.," and this would surely be legitimate, says Goodwin. "And unlike something like a traditional labor union, once a ‘special interest’ group founded on Objectivist values achieved its goal, it would dissipate since there would no longer be a shared purpose to achieve."


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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:29pmSanction this postReply
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I don't think it would be wrong to have a SOLOBlack. Maybe they want to discuss amongst themselves the difficulties arising in being objective in their irrational culture. I can't think of much else for them to discuss, but I don't think that interest group would be wrong. The problem with tribalism isn't that people want to discuss the things they have in common with specific others. It's that they identify themselves solely with that group and take their ideas from it. Now that Jason is no longer identified as the SOLO Homo, I am ok with the group. :)

Kelly

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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:38pmSanction this postReply
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What happened to the Mexican pimp? He's disappeared!

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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:40pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks for posting that Chris.  The gist of the statement occurred to me but I had forgotten where I read the idea or the specifc formulation.  And I don't have my copy of the homonograph so handy - shame on me I guess!

Kelly, I'm of the same mind on this. And I noticed our SOLO Gods did update my titles to make a little more sense.  Should I burn some incense or sacrifice a goat or something?

Jason


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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:43pmSanction this postReply
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He went outside to sell tamales.......

Post 52

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:44pmSanction this postReply
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Alec,  Is this new photo more, um, representative at least?

Jason


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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:54pmSanction this postReply
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Of the way you look, yes.

Alec


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Post 54

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 2:04pmSanction this postReply
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Jason...aren't you the hottie.  :)

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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 2:06pmSanction this postReply
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Thanks, doll.  I'm a great kisser too ;-)

Edited to add:  How's that for shamless self-promotion worthy of Chris M. Sciabarra?

(Edited by Jason Dixon on 5/04, 2:23pm)


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Post 56

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 8:26pmSanction this postReply
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Okay. Let's start a group for people that are partnered, straight or gay. Let's call it SOLO Duet.

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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 8:39pmSanction this postReply
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By "shamless," does that mean you really mean it?  ;)

Post 58

Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 8:59pmSanction this postReply
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John Travolta!
:)

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Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 10:16pmSanction this postReply
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Ok.   Let the betting begin.  If Jennifer kissed Jason he'd switch teams. 
 :)-


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