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Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 2:52pmSanction this postReply
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Here is the trailer for The Revolutionary Holocaust, Live Free or Die. This will be don't miss.



I intend to burn it to disk and hand out copies with the artwork from Avatar on the label.

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Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 5:44pmSanction this postReply
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Rerun ...

Leftwing Roots of the Nazis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4758sBZLC5k

George Bernard Shaw supports Hitler
(More complete quote than in Glenn Beck trailer.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ

Why killing is essential to communism
Basques and Slavs are racial trash, said Engels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3uFUxMwA1w

It will be interesting to see if Beck attempts to foist this off as new work.

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 1/21, 6:07pm)


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Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 6:48pmSanction this postReply
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It'll be new to most of Beck's viewers, and pulled together in a way never done before.

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Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 6:56pmSanction this postReply
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We have yet to hear the message, but Marotta is already playing gotcha.

The Objectionist strikes again.

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Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 7:36pmSanction this postReply
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I haven't seen any evidence of Beck stealing credit for the ideas of others and it certainly doesn't seem to be his approach to things or his style. Michael, it seems to like a funny thing to say about something he hasn't done.
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I think history will give Beck a very special place and it is going to be very interesting. His Common sense book is openly a tout of Thomas Paine's work and Beck is openly performing the same task that Paine did. Promote the revolution. His show is a bold statement of positions that aren't new,and aren't original to Beck, but are important in their effect in moving the revolution forward. He has shown himself brilliant at seeing political events on a detail level from a set of sound political principles. His form of argument is stunningly hard to refute: his use of the visual displays and showing his opponent's arguments with video clips of the progressives' own words.

He tied together the people and organizations... which would have just looked like a conspiracy theory, but not when he tied those people to ideas and showed the ideas' place in history and illustrated the logic.

Beck is very much this revolution's Thomas Paine. He has publicized the progressives versus Capitalism and done more to reframe old, and ineffective, debates in those more fundamental terms than anyone else. He'll be named the father of the modern day tea parties. He has also done a great deal to start pulling the Libertarian position out of the dark.
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p.s., I don't mean to leave out Rand's exponentially greater contribution - the role of the philosopher and the publicist aren't even in the same category. But the degree that this one man has shifted American politics isn't appreciated. And I'm not going to gush too much over Mr. Beck given how deeply wedded he is to his religious positions.

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Friday, January 22, 2010 - 4:56amSanction this postReply
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I heard this author, Bill Bishop, interviewed on "Talk of the Nation," a public radio (PRI) show, on one of my many local NPR affliates.  His thesis, "The Big Sort" is that we are clustered into like-minded groups, not only on venues like this, but even in physical neighborhoods, where precincts are no longer 50-50, or 45-55 or 60-40, but 80-20 and 10-90. 

Last summer on this board, someone recommended a Glenn Beck show and it tied in to a topic in an econ class I had in multinational enterprises and I mentioned it to the prof, that "Glenn Beck viewers" would feel differently about his surmise.  The guy is a marxist, up front, no doubt about it.  But he is not stupid: he got his doctorate at MIT and when I talk to him I can see in his eyes that he gets to the end of my sentence before I do.  But he had absolutely no idea who Glenn Beck is.  Never heard of him. Glenn Beck speaks to Glenn Beck viewers. 

Conservatives who listened to "Air America" were not blown away by Al Franken's insightful humor.  They listened to get mad.  Which they did.  But their minds were not changed.

To call Glenn Beck the Thomas Paine of our revolution is to miss the fact that that revolution actually engaged about two-thirds of the people of the time.  Your revolution consists entirely of a self-selected minority that pleases itself with its own actions.  "See!  We made the news!!"  ... and three minutes later, the news has aired a story about fifth graders collecting for charity,  two commercials for anti-depressants and a missing child poster... 

Overwhelming social change is large, slow, and mostly not perceived at the time.  The so-called "American Revolution" did not begin on July 3, 1776.  The Marines were formed the previous November.  The first Continental Currency was issued the April before that.  The American Revolution began -- if it "began" at all -- in 1754 or maybe 1763.  Do you know the Massachusetts Pine Tree Shillings of 1654?  Numismatist Michael Hodder said that Massachusetts was purposely seizing the prerogatives of a sovereign state, including the invasions of New Hampshire (from which they were forced to withdraw) and Maine (which they kept).  It was from that same time that the different colonies drew up compacts for mutual defense.  So, maybe the "American Revolution" took over 100 years to play out. 

Ted Keer posted the link to the video.  Always interested in new ideas, I watched it.  I noticed that the sidebars offered similar images, so I watched a few.  It was not hard to find three scraps from a larger work presenting the same kinds of images, the very same images, as the ones offered in the Glenn Beck trailer.  Ted Keer calls that "Objectionism" and maybe we need more of that and fewer group hugs.  I agree 100% that it is a hassle trying to have one conversation about politics or art or when someone jumps in to claim that reality is not the same for everyone or that Jesus is Lord.  Granted that.  But if reporting simple truths is objectionable, then perhaps the problem lies with those who object to the truth.





(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 1/22, 5:07am)


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Friday, January 22, 2010 - 5:22pmSanction this postReply
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Well, this was, as I said, excellent. (There is a better documentary just on Russia, from the PBS series People's Century, specifically the episode Red Flag with archival footage documenting the famines and the reeducation of the peasants and the obscene arrogance of those vicious mediocrities who were the middle ranks of the revolution. I most highly recommend it.) You should record Beck's show when it replays tonight at 2am Eastern. Even if you already know all the history it portrays, you can lend it to your friends and relatives.

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Friday, January 22, 2010 - 6:24pmSanction this postReply
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"To call Glenn Beck the Thomas Paine of our revolution is to miss the fact that that revolution actually engaged about two-thirds of the people of the time. Your revolution consists entirely of a self-selected minority that pleases itself with its own actions. "See! We made the news!!" ... and three minutes later, the news has aired a story about fifth graders collecting for charity, two commercials for anti-depressants and a missing child poster... "
"Your revolution" you say?

And do you expect people not to read or remember what you wrote from you first post to your second, Michael? You did not say in your first post that you simply "noticed" a few "similar images." You called this show a "rerun," saying, "It will be interesting to see if Beck attempts to foist this off as new work." You happily judged the man guilty fraud, based on your resentful contempt for him, before the facts were in.

Paradoxically, Michael, and all at once, you have managed to play a bitter paranoid and a condescending solipsist with delusions of grandeur.

Charlize "Monster" Theron and Christian "Machinist" Bale , eat your hearts out.



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Friday, January 22, 2010 - 7:48pmSanction this postReply
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Very well done.  I cringed every time Beck said "Engles."  *shiver*

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Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:42pmSanction this postReply
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Michael,

The content of your recent posts resemble sandwiches with no meat. In the absence of something solid, one has to read for spin, asking themselves what does Michael feel about what he isn't saying. Hence Ted parses your sentences plucking out the "foist" and the "your revolution."

You marginalize yourself in this way. Saying this revolution is mine but not yours. Saying Glenn Beck speaks to Glenn Beck viewers is a bit of silliness. He has been mentioned by name by most national politicians from the far right to the far left - including Obama. He is the force behind two white house czars being fired. His audience (those Beck viewers and the politicians and the media) are at about 7 million a day. They, like me, speak to others. Isn't that what your Marxist professor does - talk to others? Probably not as many.

Overwhelming social change is slow - yes, for a long while and then it reaches a point where if flips so fast that it seems like over night. It is no longer slow incremental change, but rather the sudden change of a paradigm shift - a revolution. A change in structure forced by a significant minority of a society. You say, "The American Revolution began -- if it "began" at all..." By all means, let's say it never did begin. More silliness. You could point to incremental changes working their way through history from ancient Greece, John Locke, the Founders and the building anger. Then like water that slowly heated, degree by degree, it suddenly changed- began to boil (if you can say it "began" at all).

All revolutions are made by self-selected individuals - I'm self-selecting. Who selects you?

You said, "To call Glenn Beck the Thomas Paine of our revolution is to miss the fact that that revolution actually engaged about two-thirds of the people of the time." Very slippery quantifying, Michael. Are you saying that Thomas Paines' writing touched 2/3 of the population and influenced their revolt? Common Sense sold 100,000 copies to a population of 2,000,000. Beck reaches 7,000,000 per day on radio and TV and at times he has had multiple books in the top ten, outselling all others in that category on Amazon, and a Google search shows about 13,500,000 hits. There are over 84,000 video clips relating to Beck on YouTube and some of those have been viewed over a million times. When you look it is clear that these clips are promoted by pro-Beck AND anti-Beck people. All of that tells me that those self-selected Glenn Beck viewers may have passed that 5% of the population of Paine's publication.

I'd say wait till the results of the 2010 election and then maybe we'll get some analysis done to see what percent of the voters say he was an influence.

(Edited by Steve Wolfer on 1/23, 8:05am)


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Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 11:39amSanction this postReply
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TOP SONG OF 2009
1) Taylor Swift: 'You Belong With Me'

TOP BOOK SALES OF 2009 (AMAZON)
1.Game Change: Obama and the Clintons, McCain and Palin, and the Race of a Lifetime by John Heilemann, Mark Halperin

TOP BOOK SALE PUBLISHED IN 2009
The Help by Kathryn Stockett

TOP MOVIE (NYT Readers)
1.Extraordinary Measures

TOP GAMES OF 2009
-- NINENTDO DS
Chrono Trigger
-- PC
Football Manager Live



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Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 5:29amSanction this postReply
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SW: "Overwhelming social change is slow - yes, for a long while and then it reaches a point where if flips so fast that it seems like over night. It is no longer slow incremental change, but rather the sudden change of a paradigm shift - a revolution. A change in structure forced by a significant minority of a society."

 Steve, you are right in that. While we do not see the change until it happens, once it does, the new situation is undeniable.  I do not watch Glenn Beck... or much else... which is the point of the "Best of 2009" tallies above.  What comes and goes in pop culture is less interesting to me now that I am no longer 19.  Even more to the point, political change rests on something deeper.
I am not primarily an advocate of capitalism, but of egoism; and I am not primarily an advocate of egoism, but of reason. If one recognizes the supremacy of reason and applies it consistently, all the rest follows. -- Ayn Rand
Show me seven million people discussing Objectivism within the tradtion of rational empiricism, contrasting it with positivism and logical positivism, nodding over hints and roots within Benjamin Franklin and Herbert Spencer.  Show me a television series -- multimedia blogsite; iPod video; name your mode -- that gets to the root, that deals radically with social problems as consequential to and derivative of metaphysics and epistemology. 

Actually, millions do.  We do.  You do.  I do.

The Cato Institute has a recent post about how the success of Atlas Shrugged shows that millions of people want constitutionally limited goverment.  I think that misses a deeper fact.  As laudatory as the work of the Cato Institute is, they fail to perceive that more cogent consequence because their proximity to the neutron star of Washington DC has warped the signals they receive from the wider universe.  The name of this website is "Rebirth of Reason."


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Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 5:52amSanction this postReply
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Neutron star? seems more like a black hole... ;-)

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Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 7:41amSanction this postReply
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Michael said,

Steve, you are right in that. While we do not see the change until it happens, once it does, the new situation is undeniable. I do not watch Glenn Beck... or much else... What comes and goes in pop culture is less interesting to me now that I am no longer 19. Even more to the point, political change rests on something deeper.

You say that we do not see the change until it happens... but I'm saying that it is happening right now and am pointing out aspects of that change. Your dismissive reference to "pop culture" and condescending statement that you are no longer 19 leave it to me to say that there actually are people who aren't 19 that actually watch a tv. I don't think that I am diminished by bringing my intelligence to bear on what is in front of me. I've watched politics discussed at a deeper level on Beck (with Yaron Brook, for example) than elsewhere but since they aren't grey bearded academics nodding over Spencer or muttering something about metaphysics, I guess that wouldn't count. It certainly is pop culture today and that is the point I was making - that a heated discussion of the ethical roots of politics has become popular culture. Rand wrote for popular consumption.

By the way, just to point out that Yaron Brook was discussing Objectivism to Beck's audience of millions - and doing so in one of those remote interviews where Beck was in his studio and Yaron was in that Washington Tea Party gathering that numbered in the 6 figures - this is the tea party that Beck facilitated. They discussed individual rights. How could someone who posts here not be excited about that?
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The Cato Institute has a recent post about how the success of Atlas Shrugged shows that millions of people want constitutionally limited goverment. I think that misses a deeper fact. As laudatory as the work of the Cato Institute is, they fail to perceive that more cogent consequence because their proximity to the neutron star of Washington DC has warped the signals they receive from the wider universe.
Michael, you aren't clear as to what the "deeper fact," the "more cogent consequence" is. But no matter, I have identified what was bothering me about your posts on this issue. I'm picking up the absence of any emotional affinity with the movement against big governmment, and I'm picking up a distancing by you from the successes in this direction. And now I'm wondering if an anarchist can ever really celebrate strong steps in the direction of a limited government. Because the simple fact is that chaos and collapse are closer to the real heart of anarchism just as intellectual masturbation over how many protective agencies can dance on the head of pin are closer to the real mind of anarchy than having the popular culture actually start on the path to understanding individual rights and rational egoism - and in ways that result in actual political change. But maybe that's just the way it looks to me.

(Edited by Steve Wolfer on 1/24, 11:14am)


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I for one found the documentary very interesting - if for no other reason than as essentially a visual of Liberal Fascism , where the sight provides much more of the horror than the written... [and yes, it was more than that, covering more ground and yet keeping to the principle behind the Marxist mindset...]

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Drat, I didn't set my DVR to record it. Do as anyone know if they're re-airing this?

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I think you can watch it on Beck's webpage, but it's been replayed all weekend on Fox.


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