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Friday, February 26, 2010 - 2:39pmSanction this postReply
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I am glad to see NASA give advanced technology a closer look. The Constellation program had the downside of using "proven" technology at the expense of not pushing for the development of new technology. Much of that trend came from the development schedule aiming to get a new vehicle operating as soon as possible to replace the shuttle.

I still have my fingers crossed for private enterprise eventually overtaking any need for government support of human space flight in the long run.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 2/26, 7:59pm)


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Friday, February 26, 2010 - 6:03pmSanction this postReply
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I've seen Chang-Diaz' plasma rocket shown on a couple of programs on television, so it is great to hear that it is getting this close to becoming a reality.

But to digress, Luke, how are you doing in all these changes at Canaveral. Sorry I haven't been able to make any of the meet-ups, although I was at Canaveral just after your last one.

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Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:59pmSanction this postReply
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I love human space flight but hate the politics.

That's all I will say for now.

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Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 11:48amSanction this postReply
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The great thing about space exploration is that it leads to all new inventions we can use here on Earth. Here is another piece of good news: the possibility to have a source of electricity right at home or business and finally to get rid of electrical companies monopoly.
Bloom Energy unveils fuel cell of the future

The other thing we need on Mars and could use on Earth: convenient transportation which does not need roads or landing strips. Roads were a Government business even before Roman times. Time to end it? ;-)

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Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 3:54pmSanction this postReply
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There are actually a lot of clean, safe sources of power out there.  One of the scientists on a panel at the most recent LOSCON sf conference mentioned that in areas where you have fairly constant high winds, you don't need multi-million dollar wind turbines.  You simply spray charged water droplets into the air, let the wind drive them away from a charged fence and then recover them with another fence, completing the circuit. 

Another, somewhat more ambitious kind of design that was the main focus of the panel was the use of either heat driven or evaporative towers.  Structural costs could be minimized by using the sides of local mountains as the major support.  In the heat-driven design, an enclosed air mass is simply heated by the sun shining on a black surface, which could be paint on the mountainside under the plastic shell that enclosed the air.  The hot air rises through the enclosure and drives a wind turbine. The larger such a system is, the better it works.  However, it has two downsides.  First, it adds heat to the general ecosystem, as naturally you want the blackest surface possible, and of course it requires sunshine to function at all.

A more versatile system was on the cover of the one of the popular magazines a couple decades ago.  Instead of simply enclosing air and heating it via sunlight, this system did just the opposite.  Sea water is pumped up to the top of the tower and sprayed into the top opening.  As it evaporates on the way down, it cools the air, causing it to become more dense and thus heavier, which means that the energy required to pump the water up there is multiplied several times and recovered again via turbines.  Such a system can operate night or day so long as the air temperature is substantially above the freezing point, although again it has to be quite large to function efficiently.  However, presumeably, since there is little to support other than the air enclosure itself, the design that was shown - made out of brick and several hundred feet high, could be supplanted with a Bucky Fuller tensegrity structure using thin silver-coated polyethaline or reflective mylar, or some similar thin, cheap, highly reflective sheeting, weighing very little and using minimal material. 

As an added benefit, at the bottom of the water cooler design, you have cool, moist air and a fallout of sea salt, or whatever solids are dissolved in the spray water.  The original article pointed out that in the areas where there is the best hot, dry air, you could then direct the cool, moist air into a surrounding hot-house to help grow crops that otherwise could not tolerate the extreme dryness or not without a LOT of irrigation. 


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Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 7:30amSanction this postReply
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There are many good ideas, and some of them might work better than BloomBox. But they have working prototype, and promise to have it available for home use in 10 years.

We can continue fixing the aging and over-grown grid, or try something else. To have source of electricity in every house will surely solve many problems.

Centralization is never good. Back in Siberia, we lived in town with centralized hot water supply, which was also used for heating. Leaking pipes in midst of Siberian winter with vapor clouds, green grass surrounded by icicles looked absolutely surreal. Imagine the loss of heat: these pipes run no less than 20 miles, maybe more.



(Edited by Maria Feht on 2/28, 6:43pm)


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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 - 7:56amSanction this postReply
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I'd like to hold an Atlas Society Summer Seminar on Mars some day. Of course, the Martian year is twice as long as Earth's so we might do semi-annual events. And we'll have to decide whether it will be northern or southern Martian hemisphere summer. I know one of them is warmer than the other, meaning the temperature can get above the freezing point of water.

Here's why we need to "Go Martian!"

The Spiritual Significance of Mars.


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Friday, March 5, 2010 - 7:14amSanction this postReply
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Mars portrait

Where we want to go!

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Friday, March 5, 2010 - 8:12amSanction this postReply
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Last time I checked there were 971 signatures - for international effort discouragingly low number. Meanwhile if "something for nothing" crowd will continue to grow there will be no money even for basics, forget about space.

Mars Society Launches Petition Campaign - "President Obama: Set the Course for Mars"

The failure of the Augustine Commission to provide the Obama administration with a worthy objective for the American human spaceflight program threatens to leave NASA rudderless. Under these conditions, those who believe that the space program needs a real goal - and that goal should be humans to Mars - need to step forward. For this reason, the Mars Society is launching an international petition campaign, calling on President Obama to set the course for Mars. The petition is open to all to sign, regardless of age or nationality, because the question of whether NASA succeeds in doing what it can and should do to open the space frontier is a matter of vital concern to all humankind.

On July 20, 1969, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin set foot on the Moon. In the 40 years since, no human has gone farther. Four decades of stagnation in human spaceflight is more than enough. We do not need a fifth. It is time for the people to speak. Sign the petition. Spread the petition. Post links to it on every website you can. Let the voice of the future be heard.

The petition can be found at www.HumansToMars.org


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Perhaps the best way to get to Mars would be for some private uber-billionaires like Bill Gates to pool together $30 billion and follow the very cost-effective mission design laid out by Robert Zubrin in The Case for Mars.

Then, perhaps, in the not-too-distant future humans could gaze out on landscapes like this one:


Mars Peaks

(Edited by Ed Hudgins on 3/05, 3:05pm)


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Friday, March 5, 2010 - 3:30pmSanction this postReply
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Edward Hudgins and Luke Setzer set up the headquarters of the first Objectivist Center on Mars:

Mars Landscape

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Sunday, March 7, 2010 - 7:18pmSanction this postReply
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> I'd like to hold an Atlas Society Summer Seminar on Mars some day.

Ed, this is definitely a new wrinkle on space tourism and might tempt me to be a speaker again.

Will the usual policy of paying transportation costs as well as room, board, and oxygen apply? I would also insist on a return home.

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Sunday, March 7, 2010 - 7:20pmSanction this postReply
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Post #11 - breathtaking, fantastic art work!

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Monday, March 8, 2010 - 5:51amSanction this postReply
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Radiation Problem – A, B

Rad Problem / Ships of Man

Other Steps


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Monday, March 8, 2010 - 7:13amSanction this postReply
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>>>Then, perhaps, in the not-too-distant future humans could gaze out on landscapes like this one (Post 10)<<<


I am not a geologist and probably this question is stupid, but:

How this landscape was created? I understand that sand was probably brought by wind. But I don't understand broken rocks with sharp edges, not much eroded. If they been there for a long time - why didn't wind+sand erode the edges?

I don't see the wall from which they might be falling recently, and lava fields look different.

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Monday, March 8, 2010 - 10:56amSanction this postReply
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Phil - Return trip? Don't you want to be part of a planet-wide Galt's Gulch as we terraform (or Areoform?) the Red Planet to make it another home for humanity, leaving behind the degenerate culture and associated political regimes of Earth? By the way, your Summer Sem. topic could be "The Real Heroes of the Martian Future."

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Monday, March 8, 2010 - 12:33pmSanction this postReply
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Russia faces cosmonaut shortage

Wed Mar 3, 2:02 pm ET

MOSCOW (AFP) – Russia faces a shortage of candidates to be cosmonauts as fewer Russians than before are showing an interest in going to space, the head of its space training centre said on Wednesday.

Following icons like Yuri Gagarin into space has been a traditional dream of young Russians but now interest is falling, said Sergei Krikalyev, the head of the training centre, based in Star City outside Moscow.

"Now there are around 40 cosmonauts in the Russian ranks. New recruitment is planned but there are fewer people interested than we would like," he said according to the Interfax news agency.

Krikalyev lamented that interest had fallen in the two decades after the fall of the Soviet Union and also expressed concern that among all of Russia's cosmonauts there was currently only one woman.

This contrasted with the numbers of women working as astronauts for US space agency NASA, he said, noting that there were far more women working in the US air force than in Russia.

Krikalyev also complained that the funding for the training centre -- a legendary facility dating back to the early space age -- needed to be "doubled to keep it functioning properly."

"For the centre to develop, it needs to be increased several times more," he added, quoted by the RIA Novosti news agency.

He said financing was needed for repairs at the centre, parts of which "have not been refurbished for 20 years which look like they have been shelled."

Young people were also shunning the prospect of working at the centre, a place where "many work more for the idea than for money," he added.

Russia's space programme has faced dwindling funding after the fall of the Soviet Union, which put the first satellite into orbit and the first man into space.

To make ends meet, it has even shipped highly-paying space tourists for brief trips to the International Space Station (ISS).

But with the shuttle due to be taken out of service, NASA will for the next years be reliant on Russia's Soyuz launches for its own manned space programme.

Krikalyev is himself a cosmonaut legend: a veteran of six space flights he was famously in space in 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed, returning to earth the next year as a citizen of a new Russia after a marathon mission.

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