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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 12:04amSanction this postReply
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There are many ways of distinguishing between the two main factions in the Objectivist movement, which are, of course, the pro-Brandenians and the anti-Brandenians. For instance, you can look at who gravitates to the two main institutions that promote Objectivism:  TOC tends to attract pro-Brandenians, while ARI seems to be totally comprised of anti-Brandenians. (This is not the official stance of either organization, but the Brandens have appeared at a number of functions of the former, while being entirely omitted from those of the latter.)

However, my favorite way of distinguishing between the two factions was suggested to me by the following comment by James Valliant on another thread (The Critics of the Passion of the Critics of Ayn Rand's Critics, or some such overly windy nonsense).

Valliant wrote (of Barbara Branden's book about Ayn Rand): 
This sort of distortion cuts into both the "love" and the enmity simultaneously.
Now ~that~ is pure anti-Brandenian punctuation.

Pro-Brandenian punctuation, on the other hand, would require re-writing the above quote thusly: 
This sort of distortion cuts into both the love and the "enmity" simultaneously.
See? It's subtle, so you might have missed it. If you want to deny the truth of a pro-Brandenian claim (such as that Barbara Branden loved Ayn Rand), you put the word "love" in quote marks. If you want to deny the truth of an anti-Brandenian claim (such as that Barbara Branden had enmity toward Ayn Rand), you put the word "enmity" in quote marks.

Now, I'm sorry not to have had a real pro-Brandenian example to offer, but this approach to punctuation seems to be used largely (if not exclusively) by anti-Brandenians and ARI partisans. I will, however, continue to keep my eyes open for the tell-tale sign of Objectivist punctuation among the pro-Brandenians and TOC partisans. It would be a real shame if they were unable to be truly objective in their use of quote marks.

If you want a general guideline:  basically, to employ Objectivist punctuation in the way that Mr. Valliant and so many others do -- whether pro- or anti-Brandenian -- you simply pick whatever you're trying to deny the truth of, and you put it in quote marks. This is a direct parallel to the Objectivist approach to humor, of ridiculing whatever you want to deny metaphysical significance to. Some might even claim that Objectivist punctuation is really a very crude form of humor, as evidenced by those who laugh when they see it being used in an attack on someone they dislike.

Here is another example, which shows that Objectivist punctuation is used for more than simply registering one's support or opposition to the Brandens. This example is taken from a comment in an Objectivist blog discussion by one L.S. (who seems at times to be channeling Leonard Peikoff, and at other times to be lapsing into near-hysteria at criticisms of Rand and ARI), who wrote of Bill Dwyer's critique of Peter Schwartz:
The flaw in Dwyer's "argument" against the Schwartz syllogism can be countered in much more brief from [sic] than the responses...
Now, if we could call this pro-Schwartzian, then an anti-Schwartzian re-writing might go like this:
The "flaw" in Dwyer's argument against the Schwartz "syllogism" can be "countered" etc. etc.
See how Objectivist punctuation works? If it still seems a bit unnatural to you, pick any raging (or tepid) controversy you are interested in, then make a comment about someone representing the side you disagree with. Be sure to refer to their "arguments" or their "logic" or their "decency," whatever positive attribute or action they might believe to pertain to themselves. But be prepared for payback in regards to your own "rationality" or "good character."

If you would like to share these thoughts with someone not on SOLO, by all means, feel free to quote me. :-)

Roger Bissell, post-Randian musician/writer and student of Objectivist grammar




 


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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 12:36amSanction this postReply
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Roger,

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...

Your "article" was really quite "funny," but the "insinuation" that punctuation can be used for a "false dichotomy" is really too "Solo" for either ARI or TOC.

Not "rational" enough...

Michael



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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 8:20amSanction this postReply
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This reminds me of Chris Farley of Saturday Night Live with his "air quotes".

Sam


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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 8:59amSanction this postReply
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Dr. Evil and his scare quotes....   "Laser"




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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 10:41amSanction this postReply
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Brilliant post, Roger!  And you know, I think I've used this... what you might call the Argument from Quotation.  I can recall stopping myself from putting quotes around stuff, too, because it makes the writer look like he's sneering.

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 8:25pmSanction this postReply
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Roger!!!

Loved it!

The only thing wrong with this "line of reasoning" (as far as I can tell) -- is that it seems so "cliche."

:-)

Ed
Just "trying" to be funny. But it gets worse (read on). You see, I've just starting writing a rebuttal to the rebuttal's rebuttal. After thoughtful deliberation, I have chosen to call it:

The Passion of the Critics of the Critics of the Passion of the Passionate Critics of the Critical Passion of the Critics of the Passion of Ayn Rand -- or PCCPPCCPCPAR, for short.
(Edited by Ed Thompson
on 9/27, 8:32pm)


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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 8:43pmSanction this postReply
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Or (P(C2)P)2CPAR ? :-)

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 8:59pmSanction this postReply
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Robert, thanks for the chemistry-speak, but it is -- I'm afraid -- too little too late.

After re-thinking things through, and in the interest of exacting succinctness, I've now chosen an alternative title: The Passion of the Critics of Passion -- or PCP.

Expected reviews (New York Times, LA Times, High Times, etc) may include, but not be limited to, "PCP uncovers things you never thought were even really there!" , "After a good dose of PCP, you'll NEVER trust your first impressions -- ever again!" , "I can't recommend PCP enough, it was truly a life-altering experience for me!" , "PCP, once you pick it up, you can't put it back down -- this thing is: ADDICTIVE!"

Ed
[still "trying" ...]

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 11:06pmSanction this postReply
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Roger, "I" get  the "feeling" that "you" "wrote" "this" in "a" motel "room."

--Brant


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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 4:28amSanction this postReply
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Wait a minute ARI, TOC, SOLO et tutti quanti, this seems familiar, I remember assisting at that kind of discussions before. How did it go? OK, I remember again:


REG:

Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front.

P.F.J.:

Yeah...

JUDITH:

Splitters.

P.F.J.:

Splitters...

FRANCIS:

And the Judean Popular People's Front.

P.F.J.:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...

LORETTA:

And the People's Front of Judea.

P.F.J.:

Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...

REG:

What?

LORETTA:

The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.

REG:

We're the People's Front of Judea!

LORETTA:

Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.

REG:

People's Front! C-huh.

FRANCIS:

Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?

REG:

He's over there.

P.F.J.:

Splitter!

 

The Life of Brian, scene 7, Monty Python Flying Circus.


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Saturday, October 1, 2005 - 7:10amSanction this postReply
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I have to agree with "everyone" that Roger is "brilliant."

When I took the Basic Principles class, I was only 17 and not sophisticated enough not to ask, "Why does everyone here talk the same way?"  The hostess asked back, "You mean speaking precisely?" to which her husband said to her, "I think he means something else.  We can talk about it later."  I often wondered over the years if they were still married.


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