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Monday, July 25, 2011 - 4:47pmSanction this postReply
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I have seen critics accuse Ayn Rand of deliberately using "inflammatory" language such as "selfishness" and other terms. I like to think of them as "provocative" because they "provoke" re-thinking assumptions. Likewise, I often refer to "community service" as "communi(s)ty service" for the same reasons.

A fellow alumna kindly informed me in a private message that my use of that term in an online discussion forum about our high school's "community service" requirement was "inflammatory" and suggested I "tone it down" so she might participate.

Bleh. That rubs me the wrong way. I was just curious if others have had similar incidents over the years with people outside Objectivism.

EDIT: I think tomorrow I will kindly explain to my colleague why I will not comply with her wishes, referring to "sense of life" and offering this link for further reference.

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 7/25, 5:09pm)


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Monday, July 25, 2011 - 7:55pmSanction this postReply
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'community service' requirements reveal a SLAVER MENTALLY...

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 1:17amSanction this postReply
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I would find the requirements less onerous if they actually bore a strong overlap with the educational needs of the student. For instance, volunteering as a science tutor helps to reinforce the student's own learning. However, this requirement goes well beyond this egoistic goal into altruism. Per this link at the school's Web site:

The end of all education should surely be service to others. —Cesar Chavez

Ellsworth Toohey is alive and well.

When I attended the school in question, we had a "one Saturday per quarter" option. Let me tell you about my four Saturdays:

1. Clean an old woman's backyard of trash and debris and acquire poison ivy in the process.

2. Install insulating plastic on the windows of homes of senior citizens and other poor people.

3. More of (2).

4. Paint a halfway house for recovering drug addicts.

Notice that none of these activities bore any relevance whatsoever to my educational or career goals. At least my Eagle Scout service project required me to plan a project, assemble a team, log hours, and cultivate other leadership and project management skills I could apply later. None of these "mundane" activities in my list did that.

I generally tell students burdened with this graduation requirement at any school to try to "maximize mileage" from it. For instance, I could have probably found a way to leverage an Eagle Scout project into a satisfaction of a community service graduation requirement if I had planned properly. Hindsight is always better than foresight.

That said, the message of such a requirement is clear: "You do not have the right to exist except as a servant to others." I disagree with that message vigorously and waste no opportunity to say so. Click this link to see the exact segment in a recent video that examines the numbers behind the "service" requirements. Please click "Like" on the video if you like it!

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 7/26, 4:01am)


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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 4:21amSanction this postReply
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As a precursor to my Objectivist future, in a display of my dislike for such service as Luke describes, I dropped out of the honor society after the end of 9th grade! :)

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Dean, sanction!

I would have foregone the Beta Club for other reasons beyond that. They forced us to engage in degrading "initiation rites" involving public humiliation. To hell with that! Now that I know better, I know that the whole argument, "Beta Club membership looks good on college applications," is baloney! That organization certainly has no monopoly on merit and others show much more respect for their members.

Self-sacrifice is a very pernicious and pervasive attitude!

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 7/26, 4:45am)


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In his book, I Feel Great! And You Can, Too, Pat Croce talks about his resistance against "initiations" in sports and school. I thought that was refreshing, given how pervasive the idea of initiations are in the sports world.
(Edited by Joe Maurone on 7/26, 5:40am)


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Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 6:41pmSanction this postReply
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LS: "A fellow alumna kindly informed me in a private message that my use of that term in an online discussion forum about our high school's "community service" requirement was "inflammatory" and suggested I "tone it down" so she might participate."

Well, there is a difference between a tea room and a tap room, and when you use clever barbs, it understandably makes people stand clear of the slings and arrows. So, there is that.

I also understand the whiny spineless creature-like things that refuse to stand into the wind and grapple with a tough idea. That's their problem to deal with. No need to apologize or back down.

And yet, asking what the actual value in community service is - and staying on-subject to keep your argument focused - is valid. But the name-calling ("communi(s)ty service") announces everything you intend.. and perhaps everything you intend to avoid. Do you object to helping drug addicts, as opposed to transgendered homeless or versus the local fire department? How would you feel about painting a police kiosk?

I mean that I know how you would feel because we share a lot of background on that. Other people are clueless.

It is important to identify your objection to the morality of altruism as something more than an opposition to Marxism, which might be shared by a Christian.

This is the standard "Community Service" section of my resume (regardless of job title and other details):

Community Service
• University of Michigan (Flint), May 6, 2011, “Super Science Friday” presentation “CSI: Flint – Who Guards the Guardians” for area middle school science students on misconduct and fraud in scientific research including junk science in the courtroom.
• Washtenaw County Citizens Cyber Coalition, (January 2011-Present.) Working with Law Enforcement advisory group to bring awareness of computer security issues to the general business community of Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, and other communities.
• University of Michigan (Flint), May 14, 2009, “Super Science Friday” presentation “CSI: Flint” for area middle school science students introducing blood grouping and fingerprinting.
• Traverse City “Bay Bucks” Committee (April 2002 to December 2003). Managed subcommittee of artists and designers for the creation of a local currency serving businesses, entrepreneurs and skilled crafts providers.
• American Numismatic Association (January 2000 to December 2004). Chosen by successive presidents to serve on “Future of the Hobby” committees. ANA was founded in 1891 and chartered by Congress in 1912.

See, when I apply for a job, even if there is a lone Objectivist out there in management land, she is not going to say, "Oh, no! Not another Toohey!!" And everyone else will think that it is nice that I give back to the community. Believe me, I only participate in things that serve my interests, even if they secondarily serve the community.


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