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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 5:45pmSanction this postReply
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LOL

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Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 6:29pmSanction this postReply
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"That will be five cents, please."

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 - 7:25amSanction this postReply
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Ted, the word is "purposely," not "purposefully."


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Thursday, September 6, 2007 - 2:23pmSanction this postReply
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purpose:purposely::wonder:wonderly

The suffixes -ful and -ly are productive which means that like adding -ing to a newly coined verb, one can add them to a base and expect to be understood. The plural form -en (oxen, children, brethren) is no longer productive, and one cannot go about speaking of websiten, cellphonen, or iPoden unless one wants to make a joke having something to do with Nazis in the mode of Monty Python.

As for this supposed word purposely, it would mean "like purpose" or "in a purpose manner," neither of which makes sense. Purposefully means "in a manner full of purpose." I think my meaning was clear. I choose my words most carely.

Respectly,

Ted Keer

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 - 3:01pmSanction this postReply
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It's idiom. Purposely is the one that means "on purpose." Purposefully means showing a sense of purpose.

It's not a supposed word:

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html

(The definition he gives for the second word is a bit off, but he does seem to get the distinction.)

To clarify, you ought to have said “I designed this question purposely to have a non-mathematical criterion.” That is, if you are going to follow the word with an infinitive that describes the purpose, you cannot use “purposefully,” which stands on its own to indicate the merely the manner in which you are acting: “I tackled it purposefully.”

(Edited by Rodney Rawlings on 9/06, 3:18pm)


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Thursday, September 6, 2007 - 3:28pmSanction this postReply
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Respectly, Rodney, I will decline your suggestion to use this "idiomatic" expression. On purpose means "on purpose." Purposely is not only aesthetically unpleasing, it's ridiculous. My action was purposeful, hence I acted purposefully. I did not act like a purpose, just as I did not write thoughtly. I wrote intentionally, not intentionly.

Brian can aspire to the status of pedant or maven if he likes, but the word "like" and the cognate suffix "-ly" date back to proto-Eurasiatic, well over eight millennia ago. The original meaning of the term is "body" and the word has cognates throughout Siberia and the suffix -lig is found even in Eskimo-Aleut. My opinion is not uninformed on this matter.

Ted



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Thursday, September 6, 2007 - 3:33pmSanction this postReply
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Well, mastery of a language involves idiomatic use of it. So I'll just disagree.

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