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Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 1:04pmSanction this postReply
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Tom Wolfe's Mao-Maoing the Flack Catchers and Radical Chic are excellent, well written essays skewering the pretensions of the political left. Read about Leonard Bernstein hosting dinner parties for Black Panthers. Very Good. I have not read any of his fiction, so I don't have an opinion. But his essay "sorry, but your soul just died" is pretty good too.

See the thread here:
http://rebirthofreason.com/Forum/NewsDiscussions/1783.shtml

(Edited by Ted Keer on 9/16, 1:07pm)


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Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 1:51pmSanction this postReply
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Ted,

Possibly you know this already, but Tom Wolfe (Bonfire of the Vanities, The Painted Word, etc) is not the same man as Thomas Wolfe (Look Homeward Angel, The Web and the Rock, etc)

Jeff


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Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 2:14pmSanction this postReply
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Yes, I do, and assumed Steve did from his post.

There is an excellent, entertaining and not at all absurd interview with Tom Wolfe here on BOOKTV.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 8:02amSanction this postReply
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Ted,

Have you read (or seen the Gregory Peck film) The Purple Plain by H.E. Bates? A bit slow, but you might find it interesting... especially the movie.

WWII pilot Forrester in Burma wants to die after his new adored wife is killed in a German bomb raid on London, while they're dancing in a ballroom, married while on leave.

Until he meets a Burmese girl who gives him a reason to live. Just as he is stranded in the middle of the Burmese plains when his plane crashes on a routine mission. He and his two companions strive to reach base again.

Many interesting minor characters. A very English book/film but with some intriguing ideas about life and death and what motivates the struggle to maintain the first against the possibility of the second.

A haunting score. (And no zithers, thank god!)

As to my list of 50 (this wasn't on it), given your tastes it's very unlikely I would recommend anything you would like. But I may get around to the list someday.

Jeff

P.S. Neither Wodehouse nor Waugh are anything like E.M. Forster. The former are cynics and humorists; E.M. Forster is a literary novelist who knows how to tell a story with interesting characters and observations. All good, but very unlike one another.

If you liked the Merchant Ivory films, you'd like the E.M. Forster books. And if you didn't, shame on you. :)

(Edited by Jeff Perren on 9/18, 8:07am)


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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 9:58amSanction this postReply
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No, I have only seen Peck in Mockingbird, Moby Dick, Omen, & Hitchcock.  I haven't watched any of the Merchant Ivory films.  My tastes are not limited to what I have read.  For instance, I had never read G.K. Chesterton until two years ago, and he's now one of my favorite writers.  I can get most classical titles at a charity shop for 50c or $1, so do make recommendations, and I'll risk the money.

Ted


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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:58amSanction this postReply
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You've never seen The Big Country?

Shocking, and unforgivable. Get thee to the video store at once.

I'll make some more novel recommendations as time permits.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:02pmSanction this postReply
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The Big Country is one of the movies better than the book..... great film.... great soundtrack...

Peck was good in Old Gringo, too.... [book wasnt bad either..]

Books - how about -------

Learning the World, by Ken MacLead
First Prize, by Edward Cline
Water for Elephants, by Sara Gruen
the Sarah Caudwell mysteries - there are four...
An Enemy of the State, by F Paul Wilson

Of course John Ross's Unintended Consequences is always a good read if not gotten to before....

(Edited by robert malcom on 9/18, 1:09pm)


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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:27pmSanction this postReply
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I am not infinite, for God's sake. 

I will  see it next time it's on TCM. 

Please continue.


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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 2:28pmSanction this postReply
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"I am not infinite, for God's sake." Ted.

Ted, you are shattering my world. Say it isn't so!

Jeff

P.S. Just ordered The Man Who Knew Too Much and The Man Who Was Thursday. For some reason, I've never read Chesterton. Time I took a look.

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 3:35pmSanction this postReply
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     You haven't seen Wyler's THE BIG COUNTRY? God, how you've limited yourself, Ted! Jeff is right on here: it's a 'no-miss!'

     Just for the music score alone (Jerome Moross; not a noted 'name' otherwise), nm the great story (according to Peck, an allegory on 'The Cold War' of then) and all the 'icon' actors of that time.

LLAP
J:D


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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 4:20pmSanction this postReply
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Chesterton

Read the subtitle to The Man Who was Thursday!

I have most enjoyed his non-fiction, his Heretics and Orthodoxy are great anti-relativist polemics.

Chesterton is a Catholic convert, so his positive doctrines can be objectionable. His political once familiar political philosophy of "distributivism" critiques capitalism as tending towards monopolization, and urges political and economic decentralization. He was a staunch opponent of socialism, but wanted the law to encourage small-business proprietorship. More recent admirers of his see his position as an overreaction to government interventions in the economy which unfairly benefitted large interests.

The true pleasure in reading Chesterton is his admirable command of the English language. He can skewer his opponent with a deadly analogy or a turn of phrase that would do Rand proud. Most of his works are out of print, but his collected works are available through Ignatius Publishers. Vols. I - V of his collected works comprise the most interesting of his works, such as What's Wrong with the World and The End of the Armistice. He was one of the earliest British voices raised against Hitler and his racist theories, as well as a lifelong critic of Prussian militarism. He foresaw the disastrous implications of the Armistice terms of WWI and the inevitability of the resumption of war before 1920.

Chesterton is no Rand, but he is one of the greatest of English essayists of all time. His current neglect is in a large part due to his being the "last Liberal in England." His belief in individual rights, free trade, limited government, objective truth and the toxicity of moral relativism have relegated him to the modern purgatory of the dead white males. He deserves release.

Ted Keer

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 4:37pmSanction this postReply
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John, while I sometimes pleasure myself, I rarely limit myself.

To paraphrase Wilde:

JACK You're quite perfect, Miss Fairfax.

GWENDOLYN Oh! I hope I am not that. It would leave no room for developments, and I intend to develop in many directions.

Ted Keer

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 4:43pmSanction this postReply
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I'm looking forward to the Chesterton. I thought his statement (paraphrasing) that a certain kind of patriotism can lead to Prussianism was intriguing.

As for English essayists, I enjoyed Forster's non-fiction almost as much as his fiction. Not to everyone's taste, but very well written. He toned down his early Socialism later in life. Two Cheers for Democracy won't set the world on fire, but even a moderate voice for freedom can be a great relief today.

We've come a long way in the past 100 years, not all of it good, even beyond the political sphere that gets (in my opinion) far more press than it deserves. Politics is an expression of the general view of life held by individuals in a society. There's a reason most people felt around the turn of the 20th century that progress was going to be the norm.

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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 4:47pmSanction this postReply
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Very little is out of print these days, if you're willing to dig. I'm sure you're familiar with Project Gutenberg.

I don't personally like reading books on the computer, but essays are ok.

http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/c#a80

Jeff


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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 5:15pmSanction this postReply
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Well - Garrett's 'lost' book, CinderBuggy is only presently available in pdf [wish could get his The Driver that way, but waited too long - is now in print from Mises.org for $24].....

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