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Post 40

Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 7:13pmSanction this postReply
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Barbara,
Thanks for bringing some depth into this discussion. When you said,
From their earliest understanding, men were taught that it was their most solemn duty to carry other human beings, wife and children, throughout life, with no regard for their own preferences, with no regard for other goals they might want to pursue. They were to be beasts of burden as long as they lived.  Hong and Jennifer, do you care to imagine what that would feel like?


No imagination necessary. You've just described me. That's exactly how I was brought up. And I've always carried the same mentality. See, I was dead serious talking about needing a wife. 

What you described is the facade for men, or what's expected of them. Many women I know (including myself) may have experienced some sort of hero-worship at the beginning of a relationship. However, I've seen that in many enduring marriages/relationships, the woman gradually becomes every bit of equal as the man, if not actually the stronger one. I have since given up the hero illusion of men.

(Edited by Hong Zhang on 3/12, 7:35pm)

(Edited by Hong Zhang on 3/12, 8:27pm)


Post 41

Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 8:15pmSanction this postReply
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Hong wrote:
...hero-warship...
Hero-warship?  Is this a Freudian slip?  ;-)


Post 42

Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 8:26pmSanction this postReply
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Aaahhh, it's a frigate!

Thanks Luke! I am changing it now before too many people see it! 


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Post 43

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 12:07amSanction this postReply
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Barbara,

I'm looking at your post in vain for something to hook on to so I can send you to the kitchen too.

Why do you always have to be so right? (See, I learn.)

Well, anyway,... ahem... er...

...do you cook?

Michael


Post 44

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:23amSanction this postReply
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After a good night sleep (aahh), I see that I was way too dense. Sorry, guys and gals. This is after all a joking thread. Have fun! 

Now, back to the kitchen, no, the laundry room. ;-).

(Actually, I am at my office this moment. There are a few things I need to finish up...)


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Post 45

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:37amSanction this postReply
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Hong - what the hell are you, a woman, doing in an office? Dayamm!

Ain't got anything better to do? Oh... maybe you're a secretary or something.

Hey!!!... Stop!!!... people sure like to throw things at 'cha around here...

Michael


Post 46

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 10:29amSanction this postReply
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Hong, here's the perfect wife for you, and he'll be bragging "She Bangs" into the bargain!




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Post 47

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 11:21amSanction this postReply
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My eyes....I'm blinded....

Post 48

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 11:47amSanction this postReply
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Love that, Jennifer - "... voice of a retarded cat" - simply wonderful..... have to remember that one....

Post 49

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:07pmSanction this postReply
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Rodney,
*Big sigh*  I already have two boys in my life, really don't need another one.


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Post 50

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:22pmSanction this postReply
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Is he an action figure from Robot Chicken?     *groans*

Post 51

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 3:25pmSanction this postReply
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Jennifer, there are some advantages in being blind. Consider this item auctioned on eBay, which I found on the Disturbing Auctions site, whose author commented "Never before seeing this item have I actually wished I was blind":

[item thumbnail]

See also the category at Disturbing Auctions, "Emotionally Scarring Toys."



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Post 52

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 4:26pmSanction this postReply
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Oh... uh... ahem... that's where that thing went...

Michael


Post 53

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 4:33pmSanction this postReply
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Michael, I do do not cook! I will not cook! I hate cooking! I will starve before I will cook! Cooking is men's' work -- in fact, they are usually much better at it, at least better than I am.

The first dinner I ever made was for Nathaniel, Alan Greenspan, and Leonard Peikoff. I cooked a wonderful beef stroganoff from Ayn Rand's recipe, with peas and baked potatoes. All went well until it was time to serve the baked potatoes; they were like rocks. I put them back in the oven for 45 minutes; they still were like rocks. God knows what kind of potatoes I had purchased.

When I was forced to take a cooking class in the seventh grade, we one day made potato soup. When mine was done, I turned the pot upside down -- and the soup did not fall out; it was like a rock. The moral of the story seems to be that I should stay away from potatoes.

I have, I will admit, developed a rare talent for the opening of cans and jars and packages and the heating of frozen dinners in the microwave. I do these with a elegant flourish and a carefree toss of the head.

Barbara

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Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 4:39pmSanction this postReply
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Barara said: The first dinner I ever made was for Nathaniel, Alan Greenspan, and Leonard Peikoff. I cooked a wonderful beef stroganoff from Ayn Rand's recipe, with peas and baked potatoes. All went well until it was time to serve the baked potatoes; they were like rocks. I put them back in the oven for 45 minutes; they still were like rocks.
 
Are you sure you didn't ruin that dinner on purpose - just because Leonard was a guest?

George


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Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 5:09pmSanction this postReply
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I was about to suggest that perhaps Peikoff was the only one to eat the inedible potatoes. It would explain a lot.



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Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 5:21pmSanction this postReply
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Barbara, Barbara, Barbara...sigh.

Were it not for your ability to turn a beautiful phrase, I would dispatch a chef to give you cooking lessons. But I don't want to distract you from such a worthy task. :)



(Edited by Jennifer Iannolo
on 3/13, 5:21pm)


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Post 57

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 5:45pmSanction this postReply
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Barbara - It sure sounds like you put the Sanction of the Victim principle in action with those three. I can almost imagine them saying, "Um... delicious. Great meal..." while trying to choke down one of those things.

Well, here's a gastronomic moral sanction for you:

I swear, by my baked potato and my love of it, that I will never bake a potato for the plate of another man, nor ask another man to bake a potato for mine.

Uhm... er... you do housework?...

Michael

Edit - The only reason I ask is to get another charming mental image of you - if you can look that beguiling with a TV dinner, imagine with a... with a... uh... ahem... never mind...

(Edited by Michael Stuart Kelly on 3/13, 6:21pm)


Post 58

Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 12:43pmSanction this postReply
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Gee Barbara, why did you foam at the mouth?

--Brant
"Oink! Oink!"


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Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:32pmSanction this postReply
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OK, let me give your guys some clues.

Here are the wifely material that I was talking about... ;-)



 


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