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Friday, January 18 - 2:45pmSanction this postReply
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Ron Paul has, like Aristotle and Thomas Jefferson had by holding slaves, his own problems. But, like Aristotle and Thomas Jefferson, his positives outweigh his negatives.

For a quarter of a century, every elected president has worked to advance this country more and more toward statist collectivism (though some, like GHW Bush, did it much more slowly than others, like GW Bush, did). Rand said that the overriding political issue was individualism vs. statism.

Ron Paul, warts and all, has been more of a champion of individualism than any other candidate -- with the possible exception of Fred Thompson.

Let's see a comparison of highly-relevant voting records and settle this issue once and for all.

Ed




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Friday, January 18 - 2:45pmSanction this postReply
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Mr. Pilotte, go here, read it all, and follow the links.

I admit, "scumbag" was a completely inappropriate term to use against Lew Rockwell for expressing the views linked to in that entry.

However, my dilemma was that the more accurate term that I had in mind would have risked my blog being banned by the host site.




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Friday, January 18 - 2:49pmSanction this postReply
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Ed, I've just added more links to and citations of statements and views of Ron Paul in my lengthy blog post on the topic.

I believe the material posted below the cover photograph might prove enlightening about whether he is a true champion of individual rights -- or, rather, of what one clever critic has labeled "Confederalism."



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Friday, January 18 - 2:54pmSanction this postReply
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None of the other Republican candidates take a suicidal anti-US interests approach to foreign policy. None of the other Republican candidates to my knowledge has used racially charged paranoid conspiracy theory literature to raise funds for their political careers. Ron Paul warts and all, has a moral obligation to clear at least these circumstances of the newsletters he used to make money for his political career. He also has a moral obligation to return the campaign contributions given to him by racist organizations. He has the opportunity here to explain himself, make amends, call out who the ghostwriter is and if he still has regular contact with him then he can cease his association with him, and we can move on (but that still leaves us with a suicidal foreign policy stance of isolationism) to date Ron Paul has not demonstrated the scruples he claims he has. I think we have an obligation to judge others, fairly of course, and let the judged respond, and ultimately let the marketplace of ideas decide.



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Friday, January 18 - 7:16pmSanction this postReply
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LOL, "Ann Coulter."   I'm surprised you didn't through a few "neo-cons" into your one liner, Steve.

It's amusing to see all of this "disappointment" and "sadness" from Paul's supporters.    Some counter arguments would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.

Geesh, the heat gets turned up a little bit, and poof!  "Support" turns into grumbling, off hand comparisons.

Bidinotto's blog is pure gold, but clearly a lead balloon to some.  I think it's important to identify motives when confronted with something so hostile a cherished value.  What are Robert's motives? Are they simply to malign a candidate for the sake of misalignment?  What would he gain by this? Does any of this have merit, etc?

Instead of defensive, knee-jerk "blurts," how about some real thought? 




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Saturday, January 19 - 1:53pmSanction this postReply
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Robert,

I was hoping for a side-by-side comparison of all of the Republican candidates' voting records for the top-20 most-important issues facing our nation. I didn't get that kind of helpful insight from you increasing the number of hyper-links in your blog article. So I went online to try to find such a thing without success. If anyone can help, please do.

Here are the places I've visited. There may be a Republican voting record comparison somewhere within them -- but I failed to note such a thing from a cursory examination of them:

http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
[supposedly has info of every Congress member on every issue]

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000583/
[The Washington Post's Votes Database]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ron_Paul
[something called "Congresspedia"]

http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BC031929
[Project Vote Smart]

http://www.opencongress.org/people/show/400311_ronald_paul
["Open Congress" by Sunlight Foundation and PPF (Participatory Politics Foundation?)]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
[a Wiki on Paul's Political Positions]


Ed




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Saturday, January 19 - 2:16pmSanction this postReply
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When I went here there was a Java link to a window of comparison for Bush and Kerry (2004). The comparison covered the following 8 issues (curiously, Foreign Affairs showed up at the end -- rather than alphabetically) ...

Abortion
Civil Liberties
Economy
Education
Energy/Resources
Health Coverage
National Security
Foreign Affairs

Is there anyone aware of a similar side-by-side comparison involving Ron Paul?

Ed
 




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Saturday, January 19 - 2:30pmSanction this postReply
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There's a political quiz here which matches your answers to the candidates. My answers matched me up with the following candidatorial hierarchy ...

Total58% 
Social38% 
picture Duncan Hunter
Republican Representative (CA-52)

Biographical Profile  
Duncan Hunter's answers
Duncan Hunter's stances  

Total53% 
Social38% 
picture Ron Paul
Republican Representative (TX-14); Libertarian nominee for President in 1988

Biographical Profile  
Ron Paul's answers
Ron Paul's stances  

Total48% 
Social13% 
picture John Cox
Chairman of Cook County (IL) Republican Party

Biographical Profile  
John Cox's answers
John Cox's stances  

Total45% 
Social44% 
picture Rudy Giuliani
Former Mayor of New York City; Republican Candidate for 2000 Senate (NY)

Biographical Profile  
Rudy Giuliani's answers
Rudy Giuliani's stances  

Total45% 
Social31% 
picture Fred Thompson
Former Republican Senator (TN)

Biographical Profile  
Fred Thompson's answers
Fred Thompson's stances  



Solicitation of Feedback:
RoR participants, please feel free to question the wisdom of my answers, as some of the questions confused me; e.g., "illegal aliens earn citizenship" could mean that they have to earn it -- or that they get it right from the get-go from the legislation (WITHOUT earning it!)]

Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 1/19, 2:35pm)




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Sunday, January 20 - 10:23amSanction this postReply
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See, I got Rep. Cynthia McKinney only because there was no question there about the right of Capitol Police to detain those without identification.  I do not even line up very well with my first choice. 


Total48% 
Social38% 
picture Ron Paul
Republican Representative (TX-14); Libertarian nominee for President in 1988

Biographical Profile  
Ron Paul's answers
Ron Paul's stances  

Total40% 
Social13% 
picture John Cox
Chairman of Cook County (IL) Republican Party

Biographical Profile  
John Cox's answers
John Cox's stances  

Total35% 
Social0% 
picture Alan Keyes
Former candidate for Senate (R, IL)

Biographical Profile  
Alan Keyes's answers
Alan Keyes's stances  

Total35% 
Social56% 
picture Cynthia McKinney
Green candidate; Former House member (D, GA)

Biographical Profile  
Cynthia McKinney's answers
Cynthia McKinney's stances  

Total35% 
Social44% 
picture Mike Gravel
Former Senator (AK)

Biographical Profile  
Mike Gravel's answers
Mike Gravel's stances  


  • I took the quiz several times and the results usually look like this:

Abortion is a woman's right
Require companies to hire more women & minorities
Sexual orientation protected by civil rights laws
Teach family values in public schools

Death penalty
Mandatory Three Strikes sentencing laws
Absolute right to gun ownership
More federal funding for health coverage
Privatize Social Security
Parents choose schools via vouchers
Replace coal & oil with alternatives
Drug use is immoral: enforce laws against it
Allow churches to provide welfare services

Make taxes more progressive
Illegal immigrants earn citizenship
Support & expand free trade

More spending on armed forces
Stricter limits on political campaign funds
The Patriot Act harms civil liberties
Replace US troops with UN in Iraq


(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 1/20, 11:46am)




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Sunday, January 20 - 12:34pmSanction this postReply
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(Edited by Ed Thompson on 1/20, 12:38pm)




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Sunday, January 20 - 12:35pmSanction this postReply
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When I left "blank" (a default of "no opinion") those questions which I found confusing, I got the following top-5 hierarchy ...

 Scores & Analysis

Candidate

More Information
Click on 'Social' and 'Economic' for analysis of
your answers compared to each candidate's answers.
Click on 'Answers' and 'Stances' for complete details
of the sources of each candidate's answers.
Total40% 
Social13% 
picture Duncan Hunter
Republican Representative (CA-52)
Biographical Profile  
Duncan Hunter's answers
Duncan Hunter's stances  
Total40% 
Social6% 
picture Alan Keyes
Former candidate for Senate (R, IL)
Biographical Profile  
Alan Keyes's answers
Alan Keyes's stances  
Total40% 
Social13% 
picture Ron Paul
Republican Representative (TX-14); Libertarian nominee for President in 1988
Biographical Profile  
Ron Paul's answers
Ron Paul's stances  
Total35% 
Social0% 
picture John Cox
Chairman of Cook County (IL) Republican Party
Biographical Profile  
John Cox's answers
John Cox's stances  
Total33% 
Social6% 
picture Fred Thompson
Former Republican Senator (TN)
Biographical Profile  
Fred Thompson's answers
Fred Thompson's stances  


And here are my answers ...

Individual rights
Start Here Individual Rights Domestic Issues Economic Issues Defense/International Issues
Where do you stand on these questions of individual rights?Click on the question for more information!


Abortion is a woman's right
Require companies to hire more women & minorities
Sexual orientation protected by civil rights laws
Teach family values in public schools


Domestic Issues
Start Here Individual Rights Domestic Issues Economic Issues Defense/International Issues
Where do you stand on these questions of domestic issues?

Death penalty