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Sunday, February 5, 2012 - 11:57pmSanction this postReply
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Monday, February 6, 2012 - 4:56amSanction this postReply
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The link worked fine for me.

The comments from the general public were amusing.

Thanks for posting this, Bill.

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Monday, February 6, 2012 - 9:29amSanction this postReply
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Jules,

I tried it today, and it worked fine for me.

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Monday, February 6, 2012 - 10:13amSanction this postReply
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Its all good I just had to snoop around the site and dig up the article manually. Awesome post, its sickening the sheer magnitude of the number of sheeple that's only wish is to actually heaarrr the voice of god. Someone should remind them that with enough lsd its possible!

In the mean time there is no point in trying to point out the hypocracy of their beliefs. let them pine for their deaths so they can finally have their just rewards in the afterlife..hey 30 seconds of brain activity after your heart stops could subjectively feel like eternity who knows.

Perhaps they could give us our own state were we could make our own laws and let them all rot while we prosper. I know I knowww.( hey its the _thought that counts....).

Sigh..I'm rambling my excuse is the end of another 16 hour shift...well 18 but I have to dump the other 2 on a different day..labor laws being as they are...

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Monday, February 6, 2012 - 6:50pmSanction this postReply
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They think we're all Communists, or devil worshipers, or something equally horrible.

Heck, there's a whole lot of atheists I wouldn't vote for, either!  

(Edited by Teresa Summerlee Isanhart on 2/06, 6:52pm)


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Monday, February 6, 2012 - 7:02pmSanction this postReply
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Irony..I've had muslim acquaintances tell me I am the most moral man they have ever met and I would always be welcome in their home...go figure.

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Monday, February 6, 2012 - 11:01pmSanction this postReply
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From the article above:
"The American Religious Identification Survey 2008 reckoned that about 12 per cent of Americans were atheist or agnostic, though only 0.7 per cent self-identified as atheist and only 2.3 per cent said there was no such thing as God."

From "Atheists: Overlooked by Sociology" on my Washtenaw Justice website:
"Reliable public opinion polls from Harris Surveys and the Gallup Organization reveal that very small percentages of Americans admit to complete disbelief in God. The actual numbers can vary widely from 15% down to 0.3% depending on the nature of the survey. Open-ended online surveys tend to harvest larger numbers than telephone interviews on specific statements. Nonetheless, the numbers are small."

(The entire paper is a Google Document.)

I look at the murder of Madelyn Murray O'Hare and the assassination of Pat Tillman. Also, until a 1991 state supreme court case in South Carolina, in about a dozen states, you could not serve on a jury or hold office and perhaps not vote if you did not admit to the existence of God. When the southern states were re-admitted to the Union, many of them copied their constitutions from Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. (Massachusetts collected taxes for the Congregational Church until about 1840.)

Searching Social Work Abstracts (1977-2007) via ERL WebSPIRS turned up no articles with the words “atheist” or “atheism” in the title. The same database yielded 337 articles with “crime” or “criminal” in the title. Sociology Abstracts yielded only two: A and B [see Appendix]. JSTOR’s database of 72 journals in Sociology also produced only two relevant articles.

When the range was widened to include academic journals about religion, more results came to the surface, of course. Even so, the harvest was thin: 37 articles from 1900-2007. Ultimately, these were of little use, being mostly reviews of books about atheism by those who deny its validity.


EconoLog's Bryan Caplan suggested an "Intellectual Turing Test" and one of his Yalies ran one on her website, "Unequally Yoked." I signed up and was outed as a fraud by both Christians and Atheists. I said that accepting Jesus as my Saviour is an act of faith that does not require proof. (Wrong.) I also said that while the universe could not have had a creator, Earth may have. (Wrong.) I think that part of the problem is that her judges were classmates: they all had the same expectations and any statement outside their norm was rejected.


(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 2/06, 11:09pm)


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Tuesday, February 7, 2012 - 5:04amSanction this postReply
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when ye yolked, ye yolked, and all religionists are yolked - atheists, on the other hand, are free range... ;-)

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Tuesday, February 7, 2012 - 8:22pmSanction this postReply
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Mike,
I said that accepting Jesus as my Saviour is an act of faith that does not require proof. (Wrong.) I also said that while the universe could not have had a creator, Earth may have. (Wrong.) I think that part of the problem is that her judges were classmates: they all had the same expectations ...
Must not have occurred to them that faith is a thing which does not require any proof, or that intelligent beings might be able to create a planet. I betcha' when they think of faith, they only think of concrete "faiths" -- such as Judaism, or Christianity, or whatever. And I betcha' they don't differentiate the earth from the universe, at least not sufficiently enough to get a really good handle on the matter. Thinking well takes practice and -- if not direct, then indirect -- guidance. These "classmates" (assuming they were the judges) might be missing one or both of those factors. Even many experts and world-renowned intellectuals often fail to think well -- as the book: The Experts Speak shows.

Ed

(Edited by Ed Thompson on 2/07, 8:27pm)


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