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Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:29pmSanction this postReply
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Ed,
I see. Thanks for the explanation. Still curious though how could Peikoff part with the movie right of AS - but that's not a question for you. 

Hahaha, whether the movie will be successful or not probably depend on many things. But you guys are already in an enviable position of being somewhat able to influence the process. Best of luck!



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Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:00pmSanction this postReply
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Hong,

The interview that Ed Snider gave to Duncan Scott for the Objectivist History Project in very illuminating in this regard.

Mr. Snider repeated the story Peikoff always used to tell about Ayn Rand and the Texas businessman. The businessman offered her a cool one million dollars to promote her philosophy. And this was a serious offer. But he had one caveat: that she add a religious element to it to make it more palatable to the masses. So she turned him down flat. (I've heard Peikoff tell this same story, live at one of his Ford Hall Forum talks in Boston, btw.)

But when Peikoff was offered a large sum for the film rights to _Atlas_, by people outside his own trendy little club, when the number was right he accepted the offer.

Anyway, when Mr. Snider was asked why he broke with Peikoff and ARI, he told that story to illustrate the difference between Rand's character and Peikoff's character.

-Bill

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Monday, May 1, 2006 - 7:54amSanction this postReply
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for the info. I don't quite get the comment that the dealings of the movie right "illustrate the difference between Rand's character and Peikoff's character". I would imagine Peikoff wouldn't sell the movie right to anyone who'd attach unacceptable caveat, right? Was it really a bad deal for Peikoff to sell it to Mr. Aglialoro?


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Monday, May 1, 2006 - 9:00pmSanction this postReply
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Hong,

People have been trying to make the Atlas movie forever. It fell through a couple of times when Ayn Rand was alive, partly because she was wary of how Hollywood might screw it up and the effect that that would have on her reputation. So she passed on a number of offers that would not have given the control over it that she wanted.

In Hollywood, the producers raise the money and pick a director, then they hand over complete artistic control to the director. That is how it is always done and nobody can think of any better way to do it. Because if the producers agreed to a contract that gave Ayn Rand control over the movie, and if any argument then developed between her and the director after the film was shot, she could use her contract to keep the movie from reaching the theaters and the producers would be out their multi-million dollar investment.

After she died, Peikoff maintained the same policy. If he wanted the movie made, he would realistically have to sell the rights without such a clause. Then his only protection against a movie being made that he didn't like would be to sell the rights only to someone he was chummy with, whom he could trust to do a good job and not to tamper with the philosophical message. Of course, he would never trust anyone from TOC, because he thinks "Kelleyism" is not even a form of Objectivism.

But when the money was right, he sold out to someone outside his circle. (I don't think it was to Aglialoro, but I'm not sure about that. I think it was to someone else who then sold to Aglialoro.) So that was Ed Snider's point: Peikoff kept acting like a really great, carefully controlled, Atlas movie was as important to him as it was to Ayn Rand, and shooting down everyone who approached him because he didn't think they would do a perfect job. Then he turned around and put profits over ideas by taking the money.

-Bill

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 5:21amSanction this postReply
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I'm not familiar with the details, but I think Snider was still a Peikoff loyalist when they did the deal.

Peter


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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 5:38amSanction this postReply
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Peter,

I think that that was part of Snider's point: that the deal was one factor which helped push him away from Peikoff. And I don't think Snider was part of the deal himself, as your use of 'they' might be taken to imply.

-Bill

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 6:46amSanction this postReply
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Bill,
Thanks for that explanation. I understand completely now. That's probably why I felt a bit odd that Peikoff as the heir to Rand estate is now completely out of the control of AS movie.


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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 8:42amSanction this postReply
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Unfortunately this is the way the movie biz is run.

The only other option for complete creative control would be for the Rand Estate to finance and produce the movie themselves - as Mel G did for Passion.

John

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 9:04amSanction this postReply
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My understanding is that Peikoff sold the film rights directly to Aglialoro on a long-term option.


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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 12:05pmSanction this postReply
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What happens when the option is up?  Do the rights revert to the Estate?

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 12:51pmSanction this postReply
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Yes. That's why there's special interest and urgency to get the film underway promptly.


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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 6:39pmSanction this postReply
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Robert,

Thanks for the clarification. That Peikoff sold to Aglialoro directly makes Snider's take all the more poignant, assuming that Aglialoro wasn't in ARI at the time of sale.

Not that there's anything wrong with Aglialoro owning the rights! It's just that the whole episode appears to be another example of Peikoff's difficulty matching what he does to what he says.

-Bill

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 6:30pmSanction this postReply
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A cinema adaptation of Atlas Shrugged is superfluous because to me it has always been a movie.


We can all think of movie travesties.  This was one of the worst ("going beyong parody..."):

Casino Royale (1967)
Sir James Bond, a spy from the old school (a good spy is a pure spy) is called back to service by the death of "M" and the imminent collapse of civilization. The opposition tries to compromise him, but even as nubile young agents are thrown at him, he remains above it all. Going beyond parody to sillyness, every agent is renamed James Bond, 007 to confuse the enemy, including Woody Allen who plays, Little Jimmy Bond
 
Peter Sellers ....  Evelyn Tremble/James Bond/007
David Niven ....  Sir James Bond
Daliah Lavi ....  The Detainer/007
Woody Allen ....  Dr. Noah/Jimmy Bond
Terence Cooper ....  Cooper/James Bond/007
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/plotsummary

To say that it did not follow the book grossly understates any possible criticism.  Fear of this kind of outcome was enough to keep Rand from selling the rights.

On the other hand, the movie version of A Beautiful Mind did not follow the book, either, but actually, did translate the book, in that it told the essential story in a manner appropriate to the medium.  Relative to this, a movie that I walked out on was Alexander (great cast, boring movie). However, for a magazine article about the classics department at the University of Michigan, I interviewed the professor who teaches "Classics and the Cinema" and she said, "Lives do not make good stories."  So, I understand that the "story" of John Ford Nash had to be told differently as a movie than as a book.  

That said, Atlas Shrugged is, among many things, very theatrical.  If you watch Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead, you can see elements of live theater all through the shooting.  I believe that she saw Atlas the same way in her own mind.  The opening of the John Galt Line is one passage in the book that she herself touted as excellent writing.  I do not concur.  I found it weak -- not for the writing, but for the medium: the scene was pure cinema.  In fact, all of Atlas is like that to a greater or lesser degree. 

On the one hand, it begs for the right director.  On the other hand -- copyright laws or not -- the future of personal artistic media holds many Atlases to come as it is done, and re-done by future artists, just as Biblical or other mythological themes have been re-approached, re-solved, and re-created by painters and sculptors.  Compare and contrast Ulisse (Ulysses), directed by Mario Camerini produced by Dino De Laurentiis and Carlo Ponti from 1955 starring Kirk Douglas to the 1999 production of The Odyssey by Francis Ford Coppola (among others) starring Armand Assante.  Both were outstanding and neither had direct input from Homer's intellectual heirs -- whoever they might be.  In fact, Alexander was terrible despite the presence of historian Robin Lane -- the closest we might have to the intellectual heir of Arrian, Plutarch and Curtius -- who not only advised on the movie, but got a part in it.


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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 6:38pmSanction this postReply
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I think the fact that the writing is so cinematic could really help the development of the film. There are countless scenes in the book that I was able to view right before my eyes in lush full color on beautiful sets with amazing actors.

This probably sounds like I'm just going into broken record mode again but I think a lot can be learned from comic adaptations. The key thing you need to do when adapting a property like Batman or Spider-Man is know the story and what makes it work... know what you have to change, where and how. Know what things you can't even think of touching... And above all don't get in the way of the story. It became a bestseller on its own if you change something big you're just stroking your own ego you're probably not adding to the film. If you want to make new scenes new characters/whatnot,  make your own damn film and leave the proven name alone.

---Landon


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