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Friday, October 5, 2012 - 3:11pmSanction this postReply
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BAM! Sanctioned! Well said, Teresa.



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Friday, October 5, 2012 - 4:34pmSanction this postReply
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Actually, it was said by Tibor Machan. I was thrilled for a heart beat or two thinking at Tress had been invited.


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Friday, October 5, 2012 - 6:25pmSanction this postReply
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Exciting.

I liked this insight best:
.. her [Ayn Rand's] rejection of the prevailing misanthropy among the bulk of the country’s intellectuals ...
Spot on. Spot freaking on. Most of these "intello-bots" view man as dim and depraved (as something to be "fixed" like a squeeky wheel or a bent lamp-shade). It's the common error of experts on the Left and on the Right. Even today's "Thomas Paine", Glenn Beck, is guilty of harboring and communicating this view of mankind. The false view that man cannot be a hero.

Ed


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Friday, October 5, 2012 - 6:36pmSanction this postReply
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(OMG, Michael. As if I could ever keep something like that a secret!)

I knew I should have put Tibor's name at the top of the piece. My bad.

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Friday, October 5, 2012 - 9:30pmSanction this postReply
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Oops!

I mean, well posted Teresa!

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Tuesday, October 9, 2012 - 1:04pmSanction this postReply
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"The book was incredibly informative for me," says actress Samantha Mathis who plays Dagny Taggart in Atlas Shrugged Part II, "in terms of figuring out [Dagny's] backstory and where she came from, and why she believed what she believed, and what her relationships were."

ReasonTV correspondent Kennedy spoke with Mathis and other cast members at the film's Hollywood Premiere on Oct. 5 to find out how they connected with their characters and the themes portrayed in the movie.  (2:51 clip on Reason TV here.)


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Tuesday, October 9, 2012 - 1:15pmSanction this postReply
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Actors, ugh...

Like the disenchantment you could experience with the law if you watch it being made, or like the loss of appetite that might accompany seeing sausages being made, the enjoyment of a movie might be more, if you don't watch the actors being interviewed.

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Tuesday, October 9, 2012 - 3:46pmSanction this postReply
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Steve,

Your post prompted me to check out the video. I thought to myself:

It can't really be that bad, can it?
After watching the video, I agree with your remark:

Actors, ugh...

Some of the comments made my jaw drop. Especially when the actor who plays James Taggart (Patrick Fabian) said:

James Taggart isn't necessarily the villain; he's just misunderstood.
I thought he was joking. I don't think he was.

Another quote, by the actress who played Lillian Rearden (Kim Rhodes):

The fundamentals of freedom, I think, everyone can agree with. It's just how it's implemented that people disagree.
How does one incorrectly implement freedom?

*sigh*

Oh well, we need to remember that these are actors who may not fully understand the philosophy. They may have seen something they like within the philosophy, but they didn't take the time to integrate it, or they didn't understand it from an Objectivist perspective.


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Tuesday, October 9, 2012 - 4:19pmSanction this postReply
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Sometimes good actors, with a good script, and a good director can rise above their personal limitations and give a powerful performance - they can effectively portray someone totally different than they are. That's what I'm hoping for. I have tickets for Friday and I'm excited.

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Tuesday, October 9, 2012 - 10:05pmSanction this postReply
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Part 2 is faster paced than Part 1 and, while I had my favorites among the actors in the first cast, I especially like Jason Beghe as Rearden. He really crews up the scenery in the trial scene! Watch for cameos by Sean Hannity, Grover Norquist, Michael Shermer, Teller, Judge Alex Kozinski, SpaceX rocket guy Steven Davis, and many others!

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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 6:53amSanction this postReply
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SW:Sometimes good actors, with a good script, and a good director can rise above their personal limitations and give a powerful performance - they can effectively portray someone totally different than they are. That's what I'm hoping for. I have tickets for Friday and I'm excited.

Well ,yes, that is what actors do.  We speak of them being "typecast" as when they play the same role - hero, villain, fool, sidekick, jilted lover, etc. - over and over.  Also, there is a tendency for actors to just be themselves. This is especially true of Big Name Stars like Meg Ryan or Tom Cruise who just go through movie after movie not actually acting like someone else.  I think that Dustin Hoffman, Emma Thompson, and Robin Williams are extraordinary actors who do take on roles.  You get that with people who have strong stage experience.

The best actors - not the ones on the tabloids - you don't see them between movies, they go into the boonies and act in summer stock and otherwise continue to "take lessons."  Actors take lessons the way anyone continues to practice their craft between employments. 

But they are actors.  The roles they play are not the people they are.  That's what acting is.  Largely, they bring other people's stories - the author's stories, the stories of the characters - to life.  In the movie Team America, Alec Baldwin says, "Let's all read newspapers, then go on talk shows, and repeat what we read like it was our own ideas."  That is an unkind generalization, but it frames the discussion.

One of our favorite shows was NUMB3RS.  David Krumholtz had no idea what he was talking about.  His costars were a bit more ahead of the game.  Navi Rawat said that she went online to mathematics websites to read the discussions to get some feel.  She did better.  Oddly enough, perhaps, Judd Hirsch actually earned a bachelor's in physics before becoming an actor. Dylan Bruno, who played the "dumb jock" Colby Granger, earned a BS in environmental engineering at MIT.  Diane Farr who played FBI agent Megan Reeves came to the show from Rescue Me, which she said she found physically challenging and appreciated the new desk job.   I think she did a great job actually acting like an FBI agent.  Having acted as a firefighter, she got the feel for it.  If I met her at my local field office, I would accept her prima facie long before I would fall for Sandra Bullock.

YouTube has no clips of Jon Lovitz as SNL's "Master Thespian".  Aha!  Acting!!  Thank you...


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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 10:24amSanction this postReply
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If you would permit me, Kyle, you would make an ideal Hank Rearden. But perhaps the budget wouldn't permit it.   :-)

Sam


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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 2:50pmSanction this postReply
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Ouch, Sam, that's a bit harsh. But after re-reading my post, I think I see your point. Are you suggesting that I'm making excuses for evil (or conceding the moral high ground to evil)?

I'll gladly play Hank Rearden, they can pay me in gold (or silver, if gold is too much for the budget).

I'll also make t-shirts which read "I starred in Atlas Shrugged and all I got is black-listed from Hollywood".



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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 3:01pmSanction this postReply
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No, Kyle, you misread me. People deserve to get paid what they're worth. What I wrote was independent of anything else on this thread and was meant as a compliment.

Sam

(Edited by Sam Erica on 10/10, 3:03pm)


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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 3:14pmSanction this postReply
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Oh, okay, I thought you were taking a playful shot at me.

Communicating with Ed has taken its toll on me.

Thank you for the compliment.
(Edited by Kyle Jacob Biodrowski on 10/10, 3:22pm)


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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 9:57pmSanction this postReply
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Haha kyle, Ed is indeed a deep thinker, always a pleasure to read, and so well versed in an amazing number of topics!

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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 10:04pmSanction this postReply
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Jules,

What I had meant by my remark: "Communicating with Ed has taken its toll on me", was that I am so accustomed to exchanging playful blows with Ed; I didn't recognize Sam's compliment and simply took it as another playful blow.

Yes, Ed is a deep thinker. But I'll do you one better: Ed is a passionate thinker, and it is evident in his writing style and analyses.



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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 10:12pmSanction this postReply
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Yes! Exactly! I always enjoy the dialogue between the two of you!

Now if we could get praxgirl posting here that would reallly get things goin!


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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 10:19pmSanction this postReply
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Haha, Jules, send her a personal message. Maybe she'll make a post or two.

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Friday, October 12, 2012 - 11:38pmSanction this postReply
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The theater was packed and many of the audience knew each other.  Laurel and I attended the first Friday night showing at a theater in Austin.  Four cinemas are offering it; and we intended to go to an earlier screening on the south side.  As it finally worked out, we went to a later showing on the north side.  On the way in, I saw two people I knew from a group reading Peikoff's Understanding Objectivism. In fact, many of them were there, as well as several students from the University of Texas Objectivist Society. After the movie, about 20 of us went out to dinner.

We each and all had some reservations, but generally, the movie received positive reviews; and generally it was judged better than Part I.

I will not go into all of the quibbles now.  The production of Atlas Shrugged Part 1 brought more resources to Part 2: Either-Or, and that was obvious in the feel. The film opens with Dagny chasing Quentin Daniels.  The jet he is in disappears in a collapsing flash of spacewarp. She flies to it ... and toward the face of a cliff...

... Nine months earlier ...

And the story picks up. The only bicker common to our group was that Francisco's Money Speech could have been better.  In Lord of the Rings:The Return of the King, at the Black Gate, Aragorn gives his "Not this Day!" speech.  This was not that good.  Yet, perhaps ironically, overall, the production does give broad and deep evidence of the moral power of money.  This production had more money, so, it was a better production.

(Edited by Michael E. Marotta on 10/13, 5:33am)


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