|"As to the original question, Are Objectivists REALLY Atheists? I'd say they should be, but that won't stop groups like this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christianobjectivists/"|
Looks like things didn't work out too well over there. 66 members total. For 2005, burning up the wires so far with 18 posts. I always get ginchy when I see something in the description like they have- "seeking refuge from a world full of idiots" or whatever it was- I never seem to get much traction out of folks with that kind of mindset.
I think the answer is "most likely". And if you're not, you better be able to talk coherently about individual religious experience. I view it as optional. To me, a good Objectivist lives very much as a good spiritualist does. When you talk about "sense of life", you are talking about how you walk on the earth, how it is to you. It is an evolved state.
I completely understand why most Objectivists scorn religion. For one thing, a lot of them have had extremely negative experiences with it, and its people. For two, once you are deep into Objectivism, you're likely to be looking at other things. That is why many Objectivists don't have a comprehensive understanding of religion- the fact is they do just fine without it, and by so doing avoid a huge bullshit factor.
On the other hand, if you are out looking at philosophy, you're likely going to run into psychology, right? And, if you look at psychology and philosophy, you might be interested in looking at things to do with religion- you might want to go under the covers a bit. If you look at religion, you really have to look at myth. This whole area is where writers like Joseph Campbell, Jung, William James, and others might benefit Objectivists who haven't gotten into them too much.
For sure, the standard argument that atheism is the only logical choice for an Objectivism is not one I agree with, because I disagree with the general treatment of and lack of in-depth understanding of religion that I generally believe represents what is being, um, "objected" to... Meaning, sure, agree if you are rejecting the guy in the sky, lion lies down with the lamb kind of thing. The literal taking of a myth or metaphor.
As I said- "most likely", and if not, be ready to discuss rationally (that can be done).
(Edited by Rich Engle on 7/09, 10:35am)