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Post 80

Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 4:54pmSanction this postReply
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Ya she claims she did not even notice the moderation and called everyone who posts here "low born scum".

High praise indeed coming from a collectivist comprachico.



Post 81

Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 5:43pmSanction this postReply
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LOL!  Well, there's friends I've known for years who love hanging out there. I don't, but Eva will find lots of company to enjoy disjointed rambling discussions with.  Sorry, Robert. This appears to have really affected you.  Please don't let it. 

 

Poor Fred. Who's he gonna spar with now?? lol. 



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Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 5:56pmSanction this postReply
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Jonathan and others have already called her on numerous bullshit claims.  Now she is an expert on oil painting and photography!



Post 83

Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 6:01pmSanction this postReply
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MSK is in a pickle now. He knows I sent Eva to OL and called him a petty tyrant. So now he has to let Eva bore his readers to death spreading collectivism or risk proving me right by moderating her.

 

How do you like them apples, Preacher Mike?



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Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 6:13pmSanction this postReply
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By the way, for anyone interested, Objectivism Online is another great forum that has a lot of activity and some thoughtful posters on it. I understand they recently overhauled the site. I've been posting there and it's been a pleasant experience so far.

 

One plus is it doesn't have a creepy moderator with a decade-old selfie who follows you around being arrogant and then bans you the moment you talk back.

 

(Edited by Robert Baratheon on 3/05, 6:18pm)



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Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 7:49pmSanction this postReply
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I'm a little disappointed that Joe gave Eva the heave-ho quite as soon as he did, as I had more to say on her misinformation about Greek and Greek philosophy.



Post 86

Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 8:09pmSanction this postReply
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I enjoy reading everything you post Peter!



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Post 87

Wednesday, March 5, 2014 - 9:37pmSanction this postReply
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I too enjoyed your posts, Peter.  

 

Eva has an opportunity to find a home at OL, and there are some very intelligent folk over there.  It would be real value for her.  But she will have to listen better, make better arguments, and really try to learn from the others.  Otherwise, she'll suffer the same fate over there. Personally, I don't think she will let go of any of her collectivist positions.



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 12:44amSanction this postReply
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She may, I agree with you though I think she is hopelessly stuck and until she has some life experience in the real world she will remain rigidly so.

Perhaps when reality kicks her in the teeth a few times a lightbulb mayyy suddenly light up.  Sometimes when that happens it can be a real eye opener where that person undergoes a big positive change by realizing "damn, Rand was right!!"  I know I did.

 

(Edited by Jules Troy on 3/06, 12:46am)



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 4:00amSanction this postReply
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To me it seems that Eva didn't ever even consider our arguments.  We suggest to her she think for herself, but instead she is only satisfied by references to other people's writings.

 

Also I don't think she recognized the definitions of the words we were using.  She strived to maintain the definitions of words that she was familiar with from her background, and refused to use our meanings while reading our words.  So the information that we were trying to communicate to her simply didn't make it to her mental processes, instead it was always some postmodern basterdization of our meaning, which in her mind is rightfully nonsense.

 

Just take the word "altruism" for example.  Rand meant a particular thing when she said "altruism" and "selfishness".  Eva hasn't recognized these meanings.  Instead, she clings to the definitions from her background, and refuses to use our definitions while reading what we say... then argues with what we say as if Eva's meanings of words were the meanings we were using in our statements.

 

(Edited by Dean Michael Gores on 3/06, 4:05am)



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 4:30amSanction this postReply
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I know Dean.  She is the stupidest "smart person" I have never  come across other than some hopelessly rigid religious people who I can to some extent excuse because they have had their brains hard wired not to be rational at all.  She however reminds me of a parrot with a huge volcabulary that is unable or even worse unwilling to absorb a concept presented to her and really think things through.  A huge fragile ego that is easily offended, demands respect but yet is unable to reciprocate respect to those she engages with when they point out flaws in her faulty arguments.  Lol immediately relegated to "lowborn" status.

Queen Eva, a legend in her own mind.



Post 91

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 5:51amSanction this postReply
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Borg Queen



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 6:23amSanction this postReply
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HaHaaHaaa!!



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 6:49amSanction this postReply
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It will be interesting to see how long Eva lasts on OL before she has a hissy fit over posters not respecting her "genius" or MSK moderates her for not falling in line to bend over and kiss the royal rump. He'll feign tolerance once or twice to keep up appearances, but notice nobody over there makes a habit of pushing back or they quickly find themselves on his shit list.



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 10:49amSanction this postReply
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MSK - I know you are reading this. I just read your "explanation" of why you supposedly had to ban me.

 

You claim to your readers I came into your place and spit in your face. OK, let's make this really, really simple. Produce a single example - even ONE example - of me "spitting in your face" before you came into the thread I created and began gratuitously insulting me by calling me a "preacher." You can't, because you are a rationalizing fraud who changes the facts to suit your narrative. You can't admit what the record shows - that you instigated the entire problem and then skapegoated me to save face to your readership.

 

(The OL thread is You Win Or You Die, in case any wants to see for themselves who spitted on whom.)

 

After the unpleasantness, I offered to make peace with you on the single condition that you clarify what a "power game" is so that I could understand what I was prohibited from doing in your place. You refused this very straightforward and reasonable request, then doubled down by claiming this as evidence of my malevolence. How can I agree to follow a "rule" that is so vague as to be meaningless, and why couldn't you simply clarify? Bad faith on your part all the way through. P.S. the offer still stands to bury the hatchet - but you don't want peace and never did.

 

Go ahead - prove me wrong. Produce your evidence.

 

(Edited by Robert Baratheon on 3/06, 12:01pm)



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Post 95

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 12:39pmSanction this postReply
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Robert: Would you please stop contaminating this forum with your tirade? Nobody cares who's right or who's wrong. NOBODY CARES!

 

Sam



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 12:59pmSanction this postReply
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Sam - I was asked to take it to dissent.



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Post 97

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 1:03pmSanction this postReply
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Teresa:

 

Poor Fred. Who's he gonna spar with now?? lol.

 

I needed the rest.  It's difficult sparring with the full Lit Department; they've not much else to do.  I think to be fair, it should have been a fraction of them; since I gave up drinking heavily very early in Nixon's second term, a fair fight would have been with the HalfLit Department.

 

regards,

Fred

 

 

 

 

 



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 1:06pmSanction this postReply
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Robert, 

 

Putting that post in Dissent is better than anywhere else on the forum, but I agree with Sam.  It is offensive to use this forum as if it were a place to post messages to some other forum.



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Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 1:34pmSanction this postReply
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Steve - This is the only way I can hold MSK accountable for his dishonesty. What would you propose I do about it? Just let myself be libeled?

 

There is a huge overlap in readership between the two blogs, and RoR is frequently referenced on OL and vice versa, so it isn't like this is without precedent.

 

 I've already said I'm willing to make peace with the man, but he won't come to the table and keeps throwing fuel on the fire.



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