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Post 100

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 1:40pmSanction this postReply
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"Robert",

 

How do you think Rand felt when her books The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged were published?  Did she succeed in rebutting all of the logical falicies contained in the negative criticism?

 

(Edited by Dean Michael Gores on 3/06, 1:40pm)



Post 101

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 1:49pmSanction this postReply
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Dean - My understanding is that Rand took dishonesty very seriously and held numerous grudges throughout her life.

 

I do draw a distinction between criticism and dishonesty. MSK is free to crticisize me. He is not free to make up a bunch of junk to his readers that is contradicted by a plain reading of the record. Since he has asserted that I showed up at "his place" and "spat in his face," don't you think he should at least be able to produce some evidence to support that claim about me?



Post 102

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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Robert, 

 

This is NOT your forum, here for the purpose of holding someone accountable for what you say they did to you.  Where you go post your grievances about things that happend outside of RoR is not our problem.  Just quit using RoR.



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Post 103

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 4:25pmSanction this postReply
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I have a somewhat public life in another venue and can assure you, Robert, people are just going to make crap up about you. I choose not to care, and live my life as if they don't matter because, honestly, they don't. 

 

Stop caring about what someone else thinks and says, and care more about what you do and say. It's the Objectivist way. 



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Post 104

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 4:35pmSanction this postReply
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Now that the requisite "Butthurt" forms have been filled out and duly noted by all it is now time to sit back and enjoy a nice fresh cup of "STFU".  We understand said "Butthurt" however are now suffering brain hurt from listening to your incessant whiningggg.  It is time for you to put your otherwise capable and enjoyable intellect to better uses.  This crap will just eat you up inside.  Let it goooo mannn life is too damn short and nothing constructive can come of this.



Post 105

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 6:16pmSanction this postReply
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Dean, are my posts being posted? just curious.



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Post 106

Thursday, March 6, 2014 - 6:24pmSanction this postReply
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I've only seen 2 from you so far.  Did you try to post more than that?  Know that the "Post/Preview" button should really just say "Preview".  Hm I should fix that.



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Post 107

Friday, March 7, 2014 - 3:10amSanction this postReply
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Robert, get a free blog at WordPress to vent your outrage to your heart's content.

 

By the way, your transport of Eva to OL was as brilliant as Scotty beaming the tribbles onto the Klingon ship in the famous Star Trek episode "The Trouble with Tribbles"!

 

So we should call this thread "The Trouble with Trolls"!

 

(Edited by Luke Setzer on 3/07, 3:16am)



Post 108

Friday, March 7, 2014 - 4:49amSanction this postReply
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Luke Locke, welcome to RoR.

 

Dean, are my posts being posted?

 

Newbie posts are moderated until the newbie has 10 Atlas points (link). This may explain delays you have sensed.



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Post 109

Friday, March 7, 2014 - 5:22amSanction this postReply
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Jules et al - Agreed. The point has been made, and I apologize you were all subjected to that unpleasantness. I had to teach The Master a little lesson in humility and social consequence. The self-described "adventurer" has spent too long lording over his peasants from behind a grease-crudded keyboard, sausage-like fingers cravingly hovering to enact his virtual judgement. When you drag somebody through the dirt - as he so relishes doing on OL - they may very well drag you along with them in the end. The banee is still "there" post-ban, so it's an action that shouldn't be taken frivolously. When MSK does next pry himself loose from his failing, Cheetos-stained computer chair to a DC-area Objectivist event, he's going to have to consider the possibility that I may also be in attendance. It's a small world after all.

 

 

(Edited by Robert Baratheon on 3/07, 7:43am)



Post 110

Friday, March 7, 2014 - 9:24amSanction this postReply
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Tribbles!! Lmao brilliant!



Post 111

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 5:17amSanction this postReply
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Quick question - Does anyone on OL or RoR actually believe Eva is a 20-year-old female college student with no digital footprint outside of Objectivist forums? LOL.



Post 112

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 12:37pmSanction this postReply
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Robert,

 

Regarding Eva being a 20 year old female college student.  There is some minor evidence saying she is, but as far as I know, no evidence saying she isn't.  The evidence saying she is doesn't add up to much, but it is something.  Do you have any evidence at all that she isn't a 20 year old female college student?  Just curious.



Post 113

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 1:41pmSanction this postReply
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Holy crap I thuohgt ym tpyos werre bda!! Hers are atrocious!! Consistently so bad that it detracts a lot from any credibility she may have.  If she is in such a rush to spew word salad that she cannot even spell it all correctly why should anyone give anything she has to say the time of day?



Post 114

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 2:06pmSanction this postReply
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Steve - I consider the lack of *any* digital footprint on a female college student in 2014 to be circumstantial evidence in itself that something is amiss. Since Eva so freely offers up personal information (e.g., she is "skinny," has "huge blue eyes," and recently broke up with her boyfriend - how lucky, all you single men!), surely she could provide a link to some sort of indication, outside an Objectivist forum, that she actually exists. But I agree that isn't enough to draw any definitive conclusions on its own.

 

On Objectivist Living, member "Reidy" posted the following for us to consider:

Not only has Eva been popping up in several places on the O-web, she also has a confederate variously named "Tom" and "A former member"

(http://www.meetup.co...thread/39126532 - for some reason OL won't let me paste or link.  Alternatively, go to Bing and look up stasi phanomen plato; at the moment it's the third result.).

They have a lot in common.  Most salient is their penchant for supercilious name-dropping, but it doesn't stop there.

Their prose styles are similar, including a fondness for "rather" and a cavalier way with spelling.

They are the only two people to hold their odd theory of stasi phanomen in Plato.  If Bing is to be believed they are the only two people ever to use the phrase.

They are the only two to espouse their equally odd theory of Aristotelian matter.

Eva identifies herself as living in Atlanta.  Tom was posting to the Atlanta Objectivist Meetup board.

Could one have been mentor to the other?  What are the chances that two such people could come about independent of each other?

 

I had my suspicions from the start that something was very wrong with this poster - as you well know - but it's slowly starting to add up.



Post 115

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 2:29pmSanction this postReply
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A variant of the troll is the sockpuppet:

A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term—a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock—originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an internet community who spoke to, or about, himself while pretending to be another person.[1] The term now includes other misleading uses of online identities, such as those created to praise, defend or support a person or organization,[2] or to circumvent a suspension or ban from a website. A significant difference between the use of a pseudonym[3] and the creation of a sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party unaffiliated with the puppeteer. Many online communities attempt to block sockpuppets.

This sounds suspiciously familiar.



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Post 116

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 3:03pmSanction this postReply
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As reported by "Robert".



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Post 117

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 4:10pmSanction this postReply
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Yes, as a matter of fact, what is the digital footprint of Robert contra Eva?



Post 118

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 4:13pmSanction this postReply
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There is a distinction between posting under a well-known fictional avatar and claiming to be someone in real life that you are not. I have done nothing dishonest.

 

(Edited by Robert Baratheon on 3/08, 4:14pm)



Post 119

Saturday, March 8, 2014 - 4:21pmSanction this postReply
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Hm, well, in my book, being a wanna-be manipulating puppet master is worse than lying about whether you are a single female 20 year old college student.

 

Edit: I acknowledge that you are apparrently honest.

 

(Edited by Dean Michael Gores on 3/08, 4:23pm)



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