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Post 140

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 8:13amSanction this postReply
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If you want to do something constructive perhaps write something of this caliber.

http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Keer/On_Passing_Judgment_Politics_versus_Etiquette.shtml

He is I believe also relegated to dissent but sometimes he had some REALLY good stuff.

See?  I aspire to Neanderthal greatness!



Post 141

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 9:42amSanction this postReply
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Jules - Why don't you mediate and show us the way? 



Post 142

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 9:47amSanction this postReply
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Thanks for posting this link to Ted Keer's essay, Jules. It's a great article and very pertinent to the current discussion. Robert should pay attention. 

 

I miss Ted.

 

Sam



Post 143

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 10:05amSanction this postReply
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Sam - Why "should" I pay attention? My actions are accomplishing exactly what I want them to accomplish. If you want to end it, bring MSK to the table.



Post 144

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 3:41pmSanction this postReply
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All your actions are accomplishing is to make people stop reading your childish temper tantrum antics, I can see why he banned you.   MSK will not come here and why would he as you are a hopeless waste of bandwidth.  I think you are a fraud.  Any lawyer that I know in objectivist circles are VERY good posters.  Michael Moehler, Scott Atlas being two.  (Michael is amazing and RAZOR sharp).  You on the other hand are hopelessly flawed in logic and are completely disrespectful. Did you learn that skillset from being a government lackey?  I kind of liked you at first now all I can do is shake my head and spit.

 

Sam thank you for the compliment I miss Ted too!



Post 145

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 4:39pmSanction this postReply
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I can see why he banned you

 

No, you can't, because I didn't violate any OL rules, and I challenge you to prove otherwise. Retroactive banning justification is silly rationalization. Everything you see here is the result of my treatment on OL, not vice versa. I had no problems with anyone on OL before MSK started insulting me.

You on the other hand are hopelessly flawed in logic

Do you have any examples of my "flawed" logic? Or should we all just take your word for it?

and are completely disrespectful.

Yeah, you're a regular Emily Post. You curse and insult people on this forum more than all the other posters combined.

 



Post 146

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 5:28pmSanction this postReply
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So why don't you email him and be all nice nice and maybeeeee he will unban you.

As for flawed logic Fred did a good job as did Steve.

As for my language ya I have to work on that.  Wait this is dissent no I don't.  I am an Alberta oilfield worker deal with it.

 

Some of your posts are actually pretty good, it just is disappointing to see you waste it.  And it is just reprehensible that after being told repeatedly to stop using this forum as a platform to smear OL founder MSK by numerous posters that you basically passively aggressively tell them to go fuck themselves.  I am not passive aggressive and I do not mince words with people.  No I am not polite yes I swear and often say politically incorrect things but no one ever doubts where I am coming from.  And I am HONEST something you seem to be lacking.  

 

PS: He probably banned you because he does not LIKE you, it is his ball game he can do what he wants.

 

(Edited by Jules Troy on 3/15, 5:40pm)



Post 147

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 5:28pmSanction this postReply
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I miss Ted, too.



Post 148

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 5:45pmSanction this postReply
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Jules,

 

That was a really fine article of Ted's you linked to.  Thanks.



Post 149

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 6:42pmSanction this postReply
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So why don't you email him and be all nice nice and maybeeeee he will unban you.

I don't know his e-mail address. In any event, I publicly offered on OL to abide by whatever rules he set as long as he clarified what they were so I had fair notice of what I was prohibited from doing (still a mystery to all but MSK). He refused to do so on the basis that clarifying what was prohibited would be giving in to one of my "power games." How can I possibly proceed in good faith from a statement like that?

As for my language ya I have to work on that.  Wait this is dissent no I don't.  I am an Alberta oilfield worker deal with it.

Oh, I couldn't care less about your choice of language - please don't misunderstand me. I'm very much a laissez-faire sort. I just found it hypocritical that you faulted me for being "disrespectful" when you are the quickest to disrespect of anyone here.

And it is just reprehensible that after being told repeatedly to stop using this forum as a platform to smear OL founder MSK by numerous posters that you basically passively aggressively tell them to go fuck themselves. 

What gives you the right to tell me what I can and cannot post here? Since when am I morally obligated to abide by whatever arbitrary rules another poster asks of me? 

And I am HONEST something you seem to be lacking.  

Again, lacking any examples and keeping everything in the abstract. Some might say lacking any evidence for one's claims is a form of dishonesty in itself. I have not been dishonest about anything and I challenge you to prove otherwise with concrete examples.

PS: He probably banned you because he does not LIKE you, it is his ball game he can do what he wants.

So? That doesn't make it ethical. Private property doesn't abrogate moral responsibilities for fair treatment.

 



Post 150

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 7:09pmSanction this postReply
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 So? That doesn't make it ethical. Private property doesn't abrogate moral responsibilities for fair treatment.

 

If I invite someone over to my house and he does something that I do not like I do not have to give him a "reason " why I am showing him the door.

 

Oh, I couldn't care less about your choice of language - please don't misunderstand me. I'm very much a laissez-faire sort. I just found it hypocritical that you faulted me for being "disrespectful" when you are the quickest to disrespect of anyone here.

 

I respect people here that deserve my respect, including people that may or may not "like" me.  Yes I have judged you. Or rather I have judged you based upon your words and attitude on this forum.  You are of course free to make your own forum where you can rant and rave all day long on how poorly MSK treated you.  Like I said you are acting like a baby.

 

http://www.objectivistliving.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=355#entry2172

 

There..posting guidelines for OL. (Sorry joe for posting it).

 

Well as for dishonesty let us start with your name.  It is not Robert Baratheon.  Dishonest.  I need not go further.

 

 



Post 151

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 7:12pmSanction this postReply
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You are very welcome Steve!  I felt like I found a diamond with that article!



Post 152

Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 7:43pmSanction this postReply
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If I invite someone over to my house and he does something that I do not like I do not have to give him a "reason " why I am showing him the door.

I never said MSK "had to" do anything, and I've always acknowledge that it's his decision to make. That doesn't mean I can't have a opinion on the decision he made, which is that he acted immorally and irrationally by insulting me and then banning me without cause.

 

I seriously doubt you would invite someone over to your house, then throw them out without providing them with a reason. That's just foolish and antisocial behavior, regardless of whether you have the legal right to do it.

http://www.objectivistliving.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=355#entry2172

 

There..posting guidelines for OL. (Sorry joe for posting it).

Thank you for making my point, which is that it's dishonest to lay out a bunch of forum rules and then change your policy on a whim to "whatever I say goes" to remove someone who followed the rules you set. Please show me how I broke any of those rules with real examples.

Well as for dishonesty let us start with your name.  It is not Robert Baratheon.  Dishonest.  I need not go further.

Did I ever say my legal name was "Robert Baratheon"? No, I didn't, so I did nothing dishonest. It's called a "screen name" or a "handle" on the internet, Jules. Now try again.

I respect people here that deserve my respect, including people that may or may not "like" me.

 Well then we have something in common!



Post 153

Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 2:02amSanction this postReply
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Just out of curiosity why on earth would you choose Robert Baratheon as a name???!!

A fat slovenly drunk who's wife was having incest with her brother anddd bearing his children only to later be poisoned by her and killed by a wild boar on a hunt while intoxicated (and poisoned) only to suffer for a week with his guts hanging out and slowly dying of infection?

Just sayin....lol

Now Tyrion Lannister in the other hand might be "cooler".  A facinating resourceful fellow and likable for both his vices and virtues although sometimes it is hard to tell which is which!

 



Post 154

Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 7:51amSanction this postReply
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I like Robert because he's a flawed character, bored with status and the fools and flatterers who surround him, yearning for the adventures and simplicity of times past. He fears for the future of his kingdom and tries to do the right thing when its important. Through loyalty, determination, and power of personality, he formed a united cause against the Mad King and deposed him for the good of the realm. Robert was an imperfect leader, but he lived life to the fullest and held the realm together during his reign.



Post 155

Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 8:16amSanction this postReply
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And sent assassins to murder a girl just for being born!



Post 156

Sunday, March 16, 2014 - 9:35amSanction this postReply
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You mean Daenerys Targaryen, heir to the Mad King Aerys, who had just wed the leader of the Dothraki Horde and was, at that moment, actively plotting to return to Westeros and violently overthrow him?

 

Robert had been around the block a few times; he had good sense about matters of war:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tjEQnXTvwk

 

Ned Stark always did the honorable thing. "Too honorable to live," as Peter Baelish put it. You saw what happened to Ol' Ned as a result of his devotion to principle above all else.

 

(Edited by Robert Baratheon on 3/16, 9:36am)



Post 157

Monday, March 17, 2014 - 2:35pmSanction this postReply
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Eva has been banned from Objectivist Living for using a random woman's photo as "her" avatar. After hours of useless psychologizing on the false premise that Eva was a 20-year-old girl, The Great Master finally puts the moderation tool to good use (after other posters did all the work exposing the Eva fraud).



Post 158

Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 6:05pmSanction this postReply
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That sounds like a veiled threat of Initiating force against MSK if you were to ever see him at an event.  I don't know how I missed this, must have been skimming as I was on break at work....Seek help man.

 

I was referring to post 109

 

(Edited by Jules Troy on 3/18, 6:07pm)



Post 159

Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 6:28pmSanction this postReply
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Jules - You're posting across multiple threads about this now? Again, pretty big leap to call that a threat - just noting the social reality of why he shouldn't act like a tyrant to someone in such a small community. Tell you what, why don't you call the police about this "threat" you're so concerned about and they can laugh you off the face of the earth.



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